sigh I am not against alternative medicine. I rather holistic approaches to health that take into account allopathic (aka science-based modern Western medicine) as well as traditional, folk-based, and Eastern medicine practices. It's all more tools in the tool box as long as using one treatment doesn't stop you from seeking others that actually have been proven to help.
It was unsolicited advice because you, @PrettyLuv , decided that you needed to inform us about those potential treatments even though neither of us said anything about needing to look for better or additional treatments to our current ones. I had taken your comment as well meaning and had offered my suggestion because as I said, most of us with chronic illnesses REALLY do not enjoy being told yet more medical advice from unqualified individuals when we have not asked....but your defensive response leads me to believe that perhaps you think you actually are entitled to pass off your unqualified medical advice no matter what we wish. If you truly were acting from purely noble intent and simply wanting to help people, then that would be your goal - wanting to help them....not wanting to be righteous when they are are not grateful. Guess I wasted my time trying to help you see how your impact was counterproductive to your intention.
@PrettyLuv Agree 100%.
There is nothing wrong with unsolicited advice, medical or otherwise. Unsolicited advice can be easily ignored. Unsolicited medical advice does not create "victim" categories.
@TxTom - Some of it can be dangerous. I saw a pretty bad one on Facebook the other day telling us what to do if somebody is having a heart attack.... and it mentioned stuff other than doing CPR and calling an ambulance.
This thread is getting depressing. We need @pmvines here to enlighten us with his poop posts.
@Mike403 As I said, unsolicited advice can be easily ignored.
There are things like common sense and due diligence.
@TxTom - Yes but there are gullible people who will take such advice as fact no matter how dangerous it is to follow it.
@Mike403
...there are gullible people...
And there is something called Darwinism.
@Mike403 absolutely. It can take a huge toll on the recipient's mental health to keep being told by unqualified strangers and even loved ones about random "cures" found on the internet or sold by MLMs.
As I said, when we need advice we absolutely can, will, and do ask for it.... It's not like we're not constantly seeking to feel better because we are the ones who have to live with our symptoms every day. We are FAR more qualified to know what we need and what sources to trust than random people on a completely unrelated forum.
Unsurprisingly, I've found that the people who are dead set upon ignoring people's wishes regarding unsolicited advice tend to be the same ones who ignore bodily autonomy in general, violate boundaries and consent, and generally value the appearance of politeness over actually respecting other humans. They're walking red flags in my book, so it is helpful when they out themselves.
@TxTom - If somebody is having a real medical emergency such as a heart attack and some Facebook meme told somebody to delay calling 911 and try other things first, why should the actual victim be the one who suffers from somebody else's ignorance?
On the lighter side, indoor plants to improve air quality was previously mentioned
Just beware if you have pets, as some of these are highly toxic. Here are the pet safe ones
I've tried to grow spider plants a few times, but my cats looooooooove to chomp them to the roots 😅🤦🏻♀️
@cuddlefaery If merely mentioning herbs and vitamins that others have used in helping them with asthma related symptoms is considered “unsolicited medical advice” then I suppose your mentioning how toxic certain plants are is unsolicited advice for pet owners who never asked for your unqualified advice / memes on which plants are dangerous to their pets health or not. I guess it’s unsolicited advice for you to tell us what qualifies as a red flag from someone and what doesn’t. Or better yet, hearing about your attempts at growing spider plants is unsolicited. Did anyone say they were interested? Don’t think so. I mean the sheer contradiction on what’s unsolicited and what’s medical advice and what’s simple information sharing is beyond me.
No one said anything about cures, no one said anything about “needing” to inform anybody. You’re inserting so much BS into something that has nothing to do with the original intent of the comment. I mentioned treatments that have helped others and I’m happy and glad that I did if it might actually help someone. Sharing of information that you have at your disposal that someone else may or may not have is a basic form of communication and openness that you just seem to fail to understand, unless of course, you’re the one dishing out the unsolicited advice I suppose. Just because you want to interpret it as a means of giving medical advice because of some negative past experiences with people doing so to you, doesn’t mean that it applies here. Your combative response is what triggers a defensive one because none of what I said was posed as medical advice or a cure or anything of the sort. It was purely information sharing that may or may not benefit someone with similar symptoms.
And again, I removed you from the comment so I don’t even know why you’re still arguing with me about it.
In regards to your speaking on behalf of @TiaErikaTeddy99, talk about unsolicited, I don’t think @TiaErikaTeddy99 elected you as her mouthpiece. You don’t speak for her or know what @TiaErikaTeddy99/ @TTeddybear99 is thinking or how she feels about the information shared to know whether or not she’s as unappreciative and ungrateful for the information shared as you are. You don’t speak for or represent anyone but yourself and again, the information once shared with you isn’t for you anymore so this conversation as it relates to you is over.
I guess the topic of breathing didn't lead to harmony either. What's next?
@jplemmon ...cats wearing bow ties?
@everyone a disagreement I'm not in? ... I feel like no one wants to burn me at the stake anymore. I feel abandoned.
Isn't the rejection of the advice that's wrong its the hostility toward the holistic viewpoint when other people place value in it. No one said... you must do this or else!!! In these cases I find that even if you are rejecting information with complete disdain for the info (which personally I don't have)... Its the thought that counts? Its like getting an avocado for Christmas (I'll have to show the video) Maybe something you don't like and you don't have to smile at it but making guacamole on someone's face doesn't seem like the way to go...then again I see the info as a gift so I may be looking at this wrong.
P.S. I will absolutely make guacamole on someone's face if something is unkind but this is another viewpoint of a belief that hurts no one... perpetuates nothing harmful toward another human's actual well being if anything to some people (NOT ALL) it could be helpful... I mean cross reference the info and decide.
Also, @PrettyLuv ty for the advice about the camomile. I only had peppermint on hand but it was soothing. Also, if you'd have mentioned St. John's Wart is useful for depression but interacts badly with SSRI's it would have been on...
It is harmful to perpetuate the idea that no one ever could use a second opinion when it comes to health. It brings us to a narrow place where ideas that could potentially improve someone's quality of life aren't shared.
While I respect everyone's ailments I have quite a few interesting ones of my own ...saying I'm __________________ you can't say that to me or anyone else...its a fallacy.
Can I have my witch burning now... Peeze?
@Shake49 Only Bill Nye is allowed to wear bow ties....
@stormydaycuddle ahem, how dare you exclude the 11th Doctor of Doctor Who his right to rock a bow tie!!!
(Nice, a new record, does this mean we win?)
@stormydaycuddle 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 I literally couldn’t have said it better. You hit it on the nail. It’s so putridly revolting and selfish when someone has to constantly attempt to suppress others from expressing themselves or sharing info that could be helpful, if not to them, to others because of their own personal vendettas or hang ups involving it. It’s like, stop trying to spread your false narrative on others. Not everyone thinks every gesture holds some hidden negative agenda like you do.
On the flip side, peppermint/menthol is so all around amazing. Also amazing for inhaling too. I’ve heard so much about St. John’s Wort but yea, it has so many contraindications with so many drugs. But for depression, Vit B3 is said to be really low in those experiencing it, so getting more Vit B in the diet might help in addition to nettle tea for hormonal balance in case it’s hormonal fluctuations or an endocrine disrupter at the root.
Alternative medicine is beautiful, but it definitely is something to research and decide for oneself if it’s right for one’s body or not. But at least one has an idea what others have used to begin their search in the first place, if they weren’t already aware.
@PrettyLuv B3's make sense. Can't say I've been taking them like I probably should... I do a lot of things that I shouldn't. I also feel (personally) (It comes across to everyone differently) (I do have snark) even when I disagree adamantly I'm not always trying to be negative until someone makes it a thing... Then I do go off like a freaking... idk nuclear bomb which isn't okay. Working on that part.
Edit: Still love making guac and maybe on faces... but I do believe when I do its because I feel there's prejudice or something that makes someone else feel like less than.... which is my biggest pet peeve in the whole wide world. Not saying I'm perfect. Probably made some unfair guac... so for that I apologize.
Edit edit: I KNOW I've made some unfair guac.
@Shake49 I'm going to have to say you're right. I think that's actually the most offensive thing I've ever said. The Good Doctor does deserve the bow tie acknowledgement.
And if we're talking about the bonfire. Idk. maybe?
@Shake49 sorry but...cat exploitation
I’ve noticed that people that think breathing is bad don’t seem very committed to their opinion.
@Charlie_Bear OMG. LOL. Don't point that out though they might commit to it. Haha
@stormydaycuddle Bahaha!
@stormydaycuddle That taking things negatively comment was definitely aimed elsewhere. You’re fine.
I think going off like a nuclear bomb makes sense half the time, especially when it’s warranted.
I do so many things I shouldn’t, so you’re def not alone.
Breathing is stupid. It's a shame humans are forced to. Robots don't need to breathe.
@cuddlefaery I like all your memes you posted about it, and your post.
Love this thread! I don't really have an opinion on things hashed either way, but boy howdy do I love getting to read some well written back and forths!! So good!!
I do however have one [unsolicited 😘] opinion... Suggesting the responsibility for a canned air trophy should be that of one who is ever elated by his poops is incredibly misguided. I'd even go so far as to say I think the idea stinks.
Isn't a cat with a bow tie specific appropriation?