Suggest that this forum section should be for Pros and Clients only

greenearth2

I'm beginning to realize that the threads are dominated by guys who have never even seen a pro cuddler and have no plans to see a pro cuddler.  
I think maybe it would be great if at least this section of the forum was limited to pro cuddlers and actual clients of pro cuddlers. 
It doesn't matter if you've seen one or twenty, but at least one would be good.  
It is somewhat useless when I post something to get the opinion of other clients, and all I get are opinions of people who will never be a client.... I might as well post my question on some photography forum instead and see what they think too. 

It would be nice if you had to have one verified session to post if a guy and pro tag if female

Morpheus

I like this idea and agree with green where he says many of the guys who comment here have never seen pros

pmvines

Good thing then that I do have a paid cuddler a few miles up the road that I see from time to time for cuddles and go to my atheism meet up with. Dodged the bullet on that one. whew!!!

What about professionals who charge with some clients and then with a handful of friends I have met on this site, but never charged them so essentially I give my time spent with them for free?  I met them through this site, we either spend time together in person or on the phone, does that count if I can vouch for them... as a professional? There are a handful. 

pmvines

@FireAndBlue does this mean you grant me permission to be on this forum? Oh please I hope so......

Morpheus

Only if you hug @greenearth Big ass bear hug

@pmvines, absolutely!  Nobody in the universe has ever made up better or more awesome nicknames for me than you do! 

There will be no hugging from me for that guy. I'm a lover not a fighter, but I have my limits. Plus if anyone is hugging pmvines wait in line. I've already called dibs. 

pmvines

Thank you blue velvet pistachio !!!

Oh wow, forever changing colors and upgraded from a macaroon to a pistachio within just hours!  

Morpheus

Oh crap, we're all off topic ;-p 

Interesting .  Does the op think the same requirment reverse to the pro cuddler ?
ie, the pro cuddler is only qualified  to post provided they have actually seen a client ?

@ fire and blue .
this is not from green earth , but I will offer my opinion , your friends , that you cuddle with , would not count.
however, I would say they would count only if they were paying clients from a pro cuddler from another site .

Brandi

Everyone can be a potential client and may just want to see what things are about. Whether they buy a session now or in the future, that isn't really any of anyone's business but theirs and the professional cuddler they choose. This is a welcoming environment. Matter of fact,I have even had a few members say they liked my comments in the forums, and that's what interested them in having their first session with me.
Not to mention, Their comments and thoughts have just as much rights to be here as yours do just because you have seen so many pros or had so many sessions, doesn't put make your opinions any more important. 

greenearth2

So the point is, there are some things that only another client of pro cuddlers can understand.  Its nice being able to talk to other clients about things related to cuddling.  But obviously these forums are not that place!   

Brandi

Or....you could let everyone participate and only chat with guys that do buy cuddling.. which seems to be what you do anyways... Sounds like you want to change the site over something silly that is easily avoidable.

greenearth2

Yea you miss the point.  
The threads are dominated by posts from guys who never hire pros.   
The actual clients don't post much anymore cause they just got shouted down by a few vocal pros 
and everyone is entitled to their opinion.  You can give yours without calling mine silly 

greenearth2

I think after witnessing how I've been treated by some of the pros here's.  It's no wonder actual clients aren't posting here.  
The only guys who post much besides me just kiss ass with those same pros.  But anyone who disagrees is treated like garbage.   
Its plain to see this.    Ive got texts from pros who read these forums and are amazed at the negativity from the pros that post.  But they're ok with it cause that just means more clients for them lol 

Brandi

"How I have been treated by the pros"...

This may come as a shock to you but we Think literally the same as you greenearth. Its a total two way street. We have plenty of clients that treat us with respect. Clients that text us and say what you say is crazy, out of line and childish.

After a while most of us that fought for respect and for this site to be an antibully site, gave up because nothing came of it except more hate and it still continues to this moment.... So what was the alternative? Not keeping in communication with the specific few (you and some others) blocking you and trying to shut out your comments. You say men that dont hire pros are taking over the threads but yet you seem to comment in every single thread...things should have simmered down after ties were severed.. But clearly not because ties were truely never cut. Theres too much negative thoughts happening towards each other. Once those thoughts stop thats when it seemes like there can be peace.

we all have been publically informed about your client gossip group where you and a few others talk about us pros like we are the dirt that you walk on.. It comes across that way on the threads and can only image the words that are said that we cannot see.

Over this long and oh my god do I mean LONG extended period of time... the pros.. myself included have simply asked for respect in many areas and just got upset that all we received was backlash and now we are perceived as the bullies and you are also perceived as a bully its a double edge sword.

So what can we do to fix this? i think finally respecting the specific pros wishes that they do not want to debate or communicate with you could be a start and we should not respond to your threads either, We have two totally different ways of thinking and clearly cannot be civil. At this point I dont even want to engage with your discussions and Im trying very hard to control myself on not being attacky by calling you negative but it takes a lot of work since you only ever add to our threads with an oposite opinion that is expressed in an angered way. I realise we also come off that way but thats because we are all passionately angry over negativity.
None of my comment now is any different from my requests of respect in the past but this time I understand we may have came off as attacking as well. Hopefully you can also realise we have only ever wanted respect And if you dont see that, my apologies. But I too want to discontinue discussing things with you as I never see us cuddling again nor do we have the respect to communicate in the proper way.
So my best of wishes to you mister earth
I truely hope you can see the light in some situations. Its exhausting to hold on to anger or negative opinions at people for over 5 months.

greenearth2

I will be happy to ignore your threads if you kindly refrain from posting on mine.   You will notice this thread is one I posted yet is full of posts from those pros who hate me. 

Morpheus

I love you man style @greenearth

Just a real quick comment: Since it is allowed (and really, no power in the 'verse could stop us, anyway, if we wanted to do this)) for pro cuddlers to have clients through other services, and clients/co-cuddlers to have cuddled with at least one person in their lifetime (I would sincerely HOPE!), isn't the main concern whether their (OUR) points are valid?

greenearth2

So i'll try using an analogy.  
Let's say an airline sets up a forum for customers (flyers) to talk about things with the airline like seat comfort, distance between seats..meals on planes,  overbooking flights etc.   So let's say a flyer posts on there saying they wish the seats were not so close together and after a flight his legs get cramped because of this.  So then let's say then a couple people join the forum and mention that they never fly because its too expensive  then those same guys start talking about how the seat distance is just fine and doesn't need to be different. 

So then the first guy who actually flies asks them how could they know, they never even fly anywhere and haven't experienced it themselves.   they of course say well they've been in a car, and its almost the same thing.  and the airline says well their opinion is just as valid as yours.  

So you want to talk to other flyers to see what they think...cause only they have been on a flight across the country and would know what its like being in such cramped seats.   
but when you try to ask for that...the airline employees just mock you and post a bunch of silly stuff about it. 

So there you go.
hope that helps.

snuggle554321

Why would an individual continue to fly an airline when they constantly complain about the airline, employees and the planes themselves?! 

The employees complain about how that  frequent flyer is consistently annoying, rude and insulting. Other passengers make similar comments. Some passengers refused to sit next to that complaining individual.  Some employees refuse to acknowledge that the frequent flyer is on the plane. Some employees refuse to work on that plane if that individual is riding on it. Some passengers quit taking that airline in fear that this frequent flyer will be on the same plane as them.  Some employees and passengers refuse to have anything to do with that airline, even though they have never had anything to do with that airline before, simply because they have heard how horrible that frequent flyer is.

 How can this issue be resolved?
 Get the frequent-flier to stop complaining.  Likelihood… Highly unlikely/ won't ever happen.   

Get the frequent-flier banned from the airline. 
Obstacles:
 1. The frequent-flier makes the airline a lot of profit because of the frequent flying. 
2.  Possibly, the owner of the airline has not had enough complaints from employees and other passengers in order to get that frequent flyer baned.  

Solution:  employees and other passengers flood the owner of the airline with complaints and pleas to have the frequent-flier baned  or everyone given headphones so they do not have to listen to the frequent-flier complain while they are on that plane.  

Passengers and employees: Please complain to the owner of the airline so that the frequent-flier will either be banned or all of us will be given headphones so we don't have to listen to the frequent-flier any longer. Thank you!

Well that whole peace and love and no arguing thing didn't last long...

First of all, nobody should be on a high horse here because it was revealed to me that the Pros bitch about the people in the guy group in private just as much as the guy group bitches about the Pros in private. Now, NEITHER side was created to bitch about the other, but they were created for OTHER reasons. However, you've both turned your worlds into bitching and don't see that you're just as guilty as the one you're pointing the finger at. Someone said it above... Oil and Water. I suggest you all just ignore one another or rise above your differences. It's okay not to like someone, really it is. Agree to disagree and move on.

Now, regarding the thread... the whole airplane analogy doesn't work. It would be more apt to say that the client who has never paid to fly on an airline has been flying for free on other airlines with the exact same plane as the pay airline. So basically the exchange of money is the only difference, mostly. Sure, there are slight differences you have to take into consideration when it's a business, such as customer service, getting your money's worth, and other such things... but at the heart of it you're still just cuddling and exchanging money doesn't make you any more exclusive to answering questions in this forum or the next. I don't use Pros, but I've been told I had some good ideas and have made suitable comments in here. Nothing is a 100%... you're always going to get a mixture of good and bad answers. 

Also, there really aren't a lot of active people in the forums compared to those that use the site. Segregating the two forums will most likely mean the Non Pro forum would go the way of crickets with very few posts and/or answers. To me that seems a waste. I could be wrong. I'm sorry you aren't getting the answers you want. Have you tried prefacing your questions with saying that you only want Pro and/or Pro Client responses? 

my two cents is I guess the discussion participants just paddle through the flotsam and jetsam .
whatch out if you decide to whack the flotsam with your paddle .

Well speaking for my self, just starting on this site all lil less then a month ago. An I have had great experiences with people I've met from this site. I do believe that a cuddlers session is private an shouldn't have to be shared if not wanted. An is not in anyway a reflection of what the pro provided. My self personally I'm looking to make a connection between my energy and the person who I share my the me with. It not just an exchange of money but of energy and emotions that otherwise wouldn't be felt on the level that I provide. Each encounter an every situation is different an shouldn't be grouped together. Its up to each person to decide what there comfortable doing, an shouldn't really be based off someone else and there experience. People today seem to wait for others approval, instead of trusting there instincts and letting terms like professional, deter them. As a professional cuddler, I've only had one person not schedule another appointment immediately. So let's just try an open our minds a lil to the possibility that things could be exactly what we hoped for or it can turn out bad. Its our perceptions that dictate the way things go, let your intentions be positive so you may revive all the gifts your searching for.

greenearth2

First of all there are hundreds of airlines so complaining about the ones with small seats is perfectly valid because the other airlines see that and make changes and we are happy.   Yep.  Only the pros vehemently complaining here are the ones with small seats.  Which is fine.   But they get so angry cause they realize they are inadequate and being overlooked by said client.  
I don't complain about every airline.   Have you not seen I keep adding karma from new ones.   Much better airlines out there that don't post.  
When you there  pros post all this negative stuff you're just saying don't pick me I find your complaints invalid and annoying.  
Thankfully you're a tiny fraction of airlines available.   Keep attacking clients who complain but it doesn't improve your business.   Just some friendly advice 
the other paying clients I know aren't really posting anymore.  They almost gave up on this site but then they realized there's new pros who want to make money and aren't so angry and ready to pounce.