Split: off-topic (25 June 2017)

Mark

This discussion was created from comments split from: So let's talk about nude cuddling then, shall we?.

I_am_Polylover

@QTPi  If anyone is asking you for nude cuddling on this site, they should be reported and banned.  I agree with you that this is not the appropriate place for nude or topless cuddling.  However, this forum thread was specifically created for the purpose of openly discussing bit without anyone promoting actually doing it from this website,  Anyone who does that is breaking the rules laid down by Mark, and should be reported.  I don't think that us discussing it here is a gateway to it being requested here, considering the rules that are in place.  All that being said, and as it has been said before, anything that happens between two consenting non-paid adults can't be policed.  I am glad to know that you are very open with your body in your personal life, as that is a very healthy attitude, but I agree this is not that.

♥Jim

Lots of cuddles no worries

I_am_Polylover

@pmvines  As always, you are spot on.
♥Jim

I_am_Polylover

@lotsofcuddles  For part of your post, it seems that you are trying to stay on topic.  However, in other parts it seems like an anti-professional cuddler rant, and almost seems misogynistic.  Those parts are off topic, and should be posted in another place.  I do appreciate your viewpoints in the on topic parts.
♥Jim

PotatoHead

I was in a bad mood and off topic a bit. I apologize. 

PotatoHead

Please see above. I work nights and was having a bad one at work. I just saw an amazing pro cuddler and mood has since become that of pure bliss. I do apologize for venting and if getting off topic. I am sorry. 

I'm very confused. The person telling us that someone asking for a nude cuddle should he banned is the same person that asked a cuddler to attend a nude cuddle party??

PotatoHead

As mentioned, I was at work, was in a very bad mood and was also a bit tired and therefore, I strayed off the topic. I admit that and I do apologize. It just find it a little upsetting when some people view the opinion of others as bad or inappropriate but by all means, I'm not pointing a finger at anyone. 

I have been with two professional cuddlers and both wore bras, which I had absolutely no problem with. Boundaries were never crossed and both ladies have asked for future sessions, which made me feel wanted and more important, trusted. The mention of cuddling topless or nude never enter the equation and it never will. 

Sonetime I do get confused a bit confused when some women seem okay with this while others view it as being such an awful topic but I guess everyone is different and that's perfectly fine. This is just one of many topics that has been discussed, addressed and I find it equally important as many others. 

With that said, all I truly want is for the cuddler I'm with to wear what she chooses and whatever makes her comfortable. On a different note concerning this topic, there are indeed benefits of skin to skin contact and I see nothing wrong with that just as long as both consent and the session remains platonic. Would I ask for that, absolutely not but nor would I object to it either. 

@I_am_Polylover - Thank you for appreciating my views that were on topic and @masterofcuddles - If you don't mind me asking, who requested that a cudddler attend a nude cuddle party because now I'm a bit confused. 

Don't want to blast his name on here but he knows who I'm referring too.

pmvines

please stop trolling you know who you are and you know what you doing and there is no purpose to it

Who are you referring to?

If you're talking about me @pmvines I just don't like hypocrites and believe this one in particular needs to be called out. I didn't go so far as mentioning a name

I_am_Polylover

@ lotsofcuddles  I see that you actually apologized before my post, but somehow I missed it. Sorry about that.
♥Jim

I_am_Polylover

@sometimes  I very much appreciate and agree with your post.
♥Jim

I_am_Polylover

@masterofcuddle  Bringing up an old topic that was previously handled is really not needed.  Being mysterious about who you were referring to, in order to call more attention to your accusation is also really not needed, since to anyone who reads the thread, it would be totally obvious that you were referring to me.  Since you insist on beating a dead horse, I will readdress the issue. The professional cuddler in question was addressed as a friend in a private email, not as a professional cuddler on this site. I did not ask her to go or to cuddle nude with me. I told her about the nude cuddle event, and asked if she was interested in going which is different from asking her to go.  She casually mentioned my email to Morpheus, who twisted her words (per her), in launching a personal attack on me, for which he has never apologized.  Now you have taken his words about me, of which you have no personal knowledge, and are attempting to launch another personal attack, along with your cohort, poonie.  I find it interesting that this comes just as I am setting up my cuddle party, perhaps as an attempt to sabotage it.  Also your name calling is very much not appreciated as well as being against the rules.

I_am_Polylover

@WilliamIII  Your very on topic post is very much appreciated.  I also look forward to another age of freedom.
♥Jim

I_am_Polylover

@morpheus  I apologize for having to bring your name into this, especially since Mark has asked me to try to be more diplomatic, but it was very pertinent.  You can thank your good buddy masterofcuddle for that.

I agree with mark on the diplomacy 

I heard it directly from the source Jim not through Morpheous at all. I don't care if she was asked in a round about way she was still asked to a nude cuddle event which means she was asked to cuddle nude. Doing that is one thing but don't be all high and mighty on the site and say someone asking for a nude cuddle should be banned. You should just stay silent.

Last time I checked you were not a moderator and have no place of all people telling who should be banned

Morpheus

Jim, as @Masterofcuddle mentioned above, he did not hear anything from me regarding this situation. I have asked you multiple times to stop mentioning my name but you continue to do it. I never launched any personal attack on you. I would appreciate it if you would stop mentioning my name and stop spreading lies. I'm getting extremely tired of this. I have been nice and directed everything to mark rather than address you here. @Mark I'm going to ask you now publicly to put please put a stop to all of this.

funandadventure

Dear All. This is way off post, can we get back to the subject and stop Trolling/making personal attacks, The situation was closed weeks ago.
Let us be friends and debate the topic as posted.
John Auckland NZ.

I'm a cohort now?  I've never even met the guy. I assumed he was talking about you. And I do agree with him. If you are inviting any of the women here to a nude cuddle, you have crossed the very line that you seem to be so self righteous about. 

I_am_Polylover

@Morpheus  It really doesn't matter where he heard it, it is still beating a dead horse. The issue was brought up handled to Marks satisfaction, and dropped, and is now being brought up again.  The last rounds of attacks, baiting, and jabs was when I was starting with my cuddle party, and this round is when I am moving forward with it.  It makes me wonder if this pattern is designed to sabotage my party. 

The lie that you spread about me asking pro cuddlers (note your plural there) was a personal attack against me, and I specifically pointed out to you that it was.  I have said nothing about you that was a lie.  I am also getting extremely tired of this.  I appreciate the fact that you have been pretty nice on the forum for a while now.  I have just told Mark that I would try to be more diplomatic by using the flag option rather than call people out directly in a forum post.  However, if something is aimed directly at me I will respond as well as flag.  We could easily get into a 'I said, you said' argument that could probably last forever, but I really don't see the point of that.  I'm willing to drop it if you are.

I_am_Polylover

@poonie  If you assumed it was me, then the only reason for you to ask
who he was talking about would be for you to point a finger at me, which
is the reason I suggested that you are in league with him.  Asking
someone if they are interested in something is more on the order of
asking them their opinion, than asking them to do that something. I
never asked anyone here to cuddle nude with me.  I copied the entire
text of my private email concerning this to Mark, and he was satisfied. 
That being the case, why do you guys keep harping on it.  As funandadventure said, lets get back on topic.

Morpheus

Jim, have you heard me mention the cuddling nude topic recently? No you have not. Others may still be talking about it and beating a dead horse but I am not one of them. I let this all go awhile ago and reached out to you in peace. 

Alright getting back on topic, this site is here to promote healthy touch therapy through platonic cuddling. I believe that nude cuddling is against what the site was initially for. The contract states that clothes must remain present the entire session, cuddling in underwear doesn't count as a clothing option, and nude cuddling of any kind is not permitted. All cuddlers should live up to the same standards to make this a mutually enjoyable environment. There should be no hidden expectations or ulterior motives.

Obviously there's nothing wrong with nudity between two consenting adults. This site is definitely the wrong place to search for that though. There are plenty of other sites meant for dating and more. Members of this site should feel safe that no one will ask them to cuddle nude. Personally it made me uncomfortable to be asked through email to be a +1 to a nude cuddling party. These requests ruin the image and integrity of platonic cuddling. It's unfortunate that it's being brought up again. Please help keep this site a safe and nurturing environment ❤️

Mark

(Split discussion which will remain open for now. It will soon be given 'Sink' status to prevent it moving up the list.)

I_am_Polylover

@CuddleBunny88 I agree 100% with most of what you said.  However, this thread was created for free and open discussion of nude and topless cuddling, as long as no one promotes the idea of actually doing it from this site.  I won't argue the point of what was said or not said in the private email, I am done with that.
♥Jim

Mark

The past is the past and more recently the rules have been better established and understood.

Let's be clear going forward:

1) Invites to nude cuddling parties will get your account banned. 
2) Igniting forum wars will end in the same result.