This Vancouver cuddle shop is allowing its clients to show up under the influence of "cuddly drugs"

Catloaf

I know, I know another "thoughts" thread... The Cuddlery in Vancouver is allowing you to experience your session on various substances, like Marijuana (legal in Canada), mushrooms and even MDMA (illegal). They call it the 'Otherworldly' option.

Just as a preliminary note, this thread is NOT here
to encourage rule-breaking, or to suggest that anyone offer this. Personally, I do not and would never attempt to cuddle someone while either of us is under any kind of influence, including even just a glass of wine at dinner before I hop on the train to my client's home. Just wanted to hear the thoughts of others on what this established and well-reviewed cuddle business is doing.

Obviously pros on CC can't offer this anyway, so that is also not up for discussion. But as an enthusiast or as a client, what would your reaction be to seeing this being offered? Would you take them seriously? Would you be open to trying it if the substances were legal where you live?

Being that recreational use of marijuana is now legal here in Canada, that part didn't come as a shock to me. I've gotten a few emails via my site asking if I'd allow someone to spark up a joint during a session. While I am a recreational user myself in my personal life, I will never introduce that to my business, since many will misconstrue or see it as unprofessional. There is also the huge issue of being able to consent, and at least the way I see it, you cannot fully consent once you are a certain distance away from being sober.

What did shock me was that they allow use of MDMA, which is generally not a safe drug to take in my parts. It has been tampered with globally at street level and as somebody who has almost died from an overdose on it with a small amount, I would never encourage using it at ANY time even with someone around who is trained to deal with ODs.

Given the fact that The Cuddlery is nationally revered in Canada, I don't question their authenticity, but knowing that they now allow this definitely gives ME a stranger picture. They must need some training for this as in first aid, and obviously the liability issues would be huge, given magic mushrooms and MDMA are still illegal to possess.

Just my 2 cents. I live in a state that does not have legal cannabis in any form, nor are the other substances legal. That being said I would enjoy 420 cuddles. I would prefer that my host or cuddler is also very ok to the idea of 420 cuddles. I need to be clear though that I would not be willing to pay that much money to cuddle for an hour. I wont even pay 80 an hour. Of course finding a cuddle partner isnt working out so well for me so theres that. have a wnoderful day..

CreativeCuddles

None of those services are an option here that’s why we are here. Every site will have different rules. I researched before I joined so what they do I don’t worry about.

ColouredCrayons

I don't have experience with MDMA or mushrooms, so my comments only relate to weed. For me, I would not be strictly against it. As I experience it, it's not great for having well thought out considerate conversations. As such, I wouldn't be comfortable meeting someone who was already high because it would be difficult to have that conversation regarding consent, boundaries, and what the other person is looking to get out of the session. If someone wanted to talk about issues and be heard, then weed wouldn't be a good idea because I'm likely to forget everything. If the person wanted to just relax and not say anything then it would totally be fine. Personality I feel that communication is an important part of the cuddling experience and I feel that weed wouldn't enhance that aspect. I think that what it basically boils down to is that if it improves the experience and doesn't get in the way of consent, then it shouldn't be an issue. As for Cuddlery, I find it to be alarming. Perhaps there is some fine print that need to be read but on the surface I see a lot of potential issues.

cuddlekittycat

As long as my clients are respectful & safe , they can do whatever they want .
They aren't hurting anyone but while on drugs they should be careful , yes .
People like having different experiences & I've never met someone who was strict enough to not allow someone to smoke or drink a little bit but I guess it depends on the person & what types of drugs they feel comfortable w / also

Can't stand any kind of drugs - especially smelly ones.

Would never cuddle with someone who smokes anything.

Personal preference but gross.

Kempist

@chococuddles I'm with you on that. I hate all of drugs. I sure don't want to cuddle someone smelling of weed or tobacco or even alcohol. Plus I prefer to cuddle the whole time, especially if I'm paying, over spending time smoking or drinking.

macaron

I recently moved to a state with legal cannabis, and have been using it for chronic pain with some success. I got high three times, and all of them were awful experiences. I honestly have a hard time understanding why people do that to themselves on purpose. I think I would be ok with someone using it if I'd cuddled with them multiple times before, they had experience with the strain they're using, and only use enough to get relaxed but not super high.

cuddlerforu24

For me .,the cuddling is the decompression, so , I don’t really need anything to help or enhance.

TheFunCartel

Heroin chills me out and keeps me skinny. The holes in my arms and legs serve as ventilation for my body.

sarcasm

Babichev

"There is also the huge issue of being able to consent"

Yep, if someone is under the influence of psychoactive drugs, they may not be fully capable of giving informed consent.

DeathbyChocolat

Weed ok anything else hell no if you can overdose while where cuddling then Noooo

CreativeCuddles

@Babichev I think you may mean illicit drugs and not psychoactive drugs. I take 4 psychoactive (aka psychotropics) daily and have been on at least 2 since 1996, 3 for about 5 years and 4 since March 2018. Besides having a little mania here and there I am able to give consent. I think if it’s someone new to psychotropics and trying to find a happy medium with stabilizers and antidepressants that’s a different story but alot of times because of stigma and lack of education about mental illness those that take them don’t share it. I share everything and anything about my Illness. I am ok having a mental illness. If I have it, it means one of you don’t and that I can live with.

@chococuddles what I dread is the first time I have to cuddler with a smoker. You can’t get away from the smell on your clothes and from experience with a lot of elderly patients that smoked for years you can not only see the discolorization of their fingers they held the cigarette with, those fingers still smell no matter how hard you try to get rid of it.

CreativeCuddles

This is a question for anyone willing to answer. I have never smoked pot but I do know what it smells like. Does someone have to smoke it all the time to have the smell on their clothes? Also, when someone “vapes” does the smoke from the oil smell like the real stuff? I guess you can tell I’d be a dumb pot seller ?

I can understand offering marijuana (indica strain) or even Kava (it's a natural sedative, there's actually a Kava bar near where I live and it has similar effects as marijuana except a little more mild) and in a safe environment with security near by I can understand them offering marijuana. BUT mushrooms.... No, never. Too many people have anxiety and or/mental issues that would come out on mushrooms. I've never tried it but I know people who have. For some people it's life changing, they see the world from a whole new perspective, BUT for others, mushrooms can fry the brain, bring up suicidal thoughts, depression, etc (just from what I've seen from people that have tried it) and I don't think it would be safe for either cuddler to be in that situation. As far as ecstacy, I think the issue here might be that one or both people might end up doing more than they wanted to do or they might get too grabby. It's just too strong of a drug, whether it ends up having positive or negative effects, I think the issue is that either way it puts you in an uninhibited and illogical state.

christinavictory

If not for the illegal aspect, I'd be completely in favor of this. People should be allowed to have these types of experiences.