A Question for the Pros

I'm curious how you came up with the dollar amount you charge. When I first signed up I thought this was a site just to meet people to cuddle with- which sounded very fun! I had no clue people actually paid others to cuddle with them.

Let's say you charge $60 and the person offered $20 (which is still a lot to make just to cuddle). Would you take the offer?

Comments

  • The site itself starts you off with the suggestion for $80/hour. We are meeting total strangers in the hopes that they generally want a cuddle and some connection with someone. There is always the fear that we could get hurt or worse. Heaven forbid we use the suggested amount of the site and make a specific amount that would make the choices we make a little easier. We put a lot of time into vetting who we see (which is time being used, which is something most people charge for) and then the hour itself. With the amount of time we out in to it and possibly travel, no, $20 is certainly not enough. Considering you just stated you had absolutely no idea we existed, and in another post you rudely called us escorts, and now rudely assuming $20 is worth the hour of cuddling, I think it’s best you completely disassociate yourself from pros in general.

  • @Sheena123 I think he should disassociate himself from women in general. He seems to be addicted to misogyny as evidenced by several posts he has made. Best to just ignore his posts which are thinly camouflaged attacks on women designed to provoke female anger. His mask of naïveté is melting and revealing a face of hate.

  • @Sheena123 You do realize that men can get hurt or worse as well? That we have to take time to screen people?

    Why are you against meeting strangers in the hopes they generally want a cuddle and some connection without the exchange of money?

    I have no problem that people charge. If people want to pay for cuddling, then that's their choice. I just really think it's really strange to pay a huge amount of money for somebody's time and companionship.

    And I didn't rudely call you escort. You are an escort, just a platonic one.

  • @FunCartel That's funny coming from somebody who doesn't even have a profile pic. I actually was talking about this with one of my female friends and she said the exact thing as me. Girls who get money are escorts, whether you have sex or just cuddle. One is a platonic escort and the other is a non-platonic escort.

    Where have I ever made any misogynistic comments? Where did I state I hate women? You won't find it because I never stated anything like that and now you are just slandering me.

    I'm not hating anybody. All I did was state the definition of an escort. Sorry you don't like the definition of the word.

  • @Sheena123

    I copied this straight from your page. This is the EXACT definition of an escort. What don't you get? You are asking guys to pay you to go to dinner plus pay for the dinner!!

    ~•~Skype~•~

    $40 for One Hour

    Cuddle Dates

    Dinner, movies, concerts, sporting events, shopping, etc.

    $50/ hour - 2 hour minimum

    • expenses paid for the outing
  • And I copied this straight from a dictionary: definition of escort;

    a prostitute.
    verb
    verb: escort; 3rd person present: escorts; past tense: escorted; past participle: escorted; gerund or present participle: escorting
    /iˈskôrt/

    Stop using the word escort.....

  • @FunCartel
    You’re very right. He clearly won’t understand. The more he keeps using the “prostitute” word, I can only hope he will get banned... I’ll leave it alone since this turns him on somehow...

  • @Sheena123. A prostitute is somebody who engages in sexual activity for payment. An escort is somebody who is hired to go to a social event.

    You are an escort. It's plain and simple. It's black and white. You get paid by men to go dinner with them. You are an escort.

  • edited September 2019

    @Sheena123. You are the person that does not understand. If you don't think you are an escort by taking money from men to go to dinner with them, then what term would you use?

    Now you're talking about turning me on. That's creepy.

  • @Sheena123. You are the only person talking about prostitutes.

  • edited September 2019

    @music777 I will distinguish that an escort differs from a "common" prostitute in that an escort is typically more high-end, though the terms are often used interchangeably. An escort seduces a client rather than meeting him for by-the-hour sex. Sex is the end-goal 99% of the time, but an escort is much more likely to drag out the process and actually build somewhat of a relationship with their clients.

    But, no... professional cuddlers are still not escorts, especially since no sex is exchanged... at least for those of us who are actually providing platonic services. As far as providing dinner dates etc., I'm on the fence and I think it can really colour the picture for society a certain way, and blur lines as to what our industry is and what it stands for...which is really not a good way to get society acquainted with something so newborn as professional cuddling. That's why I stick to strictly cuddling. With that said, I don't judge women who offer this. It's another way to interact that people might need just as much as platonic touch, and if the client wants to go to a bookstore, or a concert, or out for a bite, it can be a nice pretense and a nice opportunity to build some rapport.

    I think that directly ripping an excerpt from Sheena's profile and posing it here is disrespectful and in bad taste. I'd hope that if you continue to stick around, you try to tone down the vitriol. We have private messaged and you've made it clear to me that you can articulate without being nasty. Why the displays in public?

  • @Catloaf. So what do you call a woman who charges a man to accompany them to dinner?

    Sex is not the end goal of an escort. Being an escort is 100 percent legal. In fact, escort agencies have a no sex rule.

    Look it up. A prostitute is EXTREMELY different from an escort.

  • Businessmen hire escorts often to accompany them to dinners, etc. This is EXACTLY what @Sheena123 does. There is obviously nothing wrong with it, but just own up to what you do.

  • @Catlouf. You aren't understanding that escorts do not provide sex, prostitutes do.

  • edited September 2019

    I'm aware that it's legal, but that doesn't mean sex isn't happening. Escorts do not advertise sexual services...they advertise sensuality as a forefront, and may also call themselves "companions". Sex still happens a lot of the time. As someone who is friends with one escort who lives in my local area, and another who lives and blogs about her experiences in Michigan, I'm well aware of the differences between the two. Not all escorts engage sexually, but many do. They just can't/don't talk about it. As professional cuddling has somewhat proven, and if the complaints from pros about boundary pushing clients count for anything, you would be hard-pressed to find a person who genuinely would pay for an entirely platonic experience. I'm not saying there aren't rich dudes out there who pay a pretty lady just to go to the philharmonic, but they are few and far between.

    So what do you call a woman who charges a man to accompany them to dinner?

    Funny, I would liken that to being a platonic companion...and I've seen that term thrown around by some in this industry. Doesn't mean I agree with it, as again, using terminology that also overlaps into the world of sex work (incall and outcall are two other popular ones that I wish professional cuddlers wouldn't use) gives society a very problematic picture about what professional cuddling is. It isn't my journey to take though, other cuddlers will do what they want.

  • @Catlouf. How do you know that escorts provide sex a lot of the time? How do you know that pro cuddlers don't?

    And what do pro cuddlers advertise? Many times companionship and sensuality. The same things escorts advertise.

    Again, anytime money exchanges hands it becomes a transaction. If I meet a girl at work and take her to dinner, she is my date. If I meet a girl online and pay her $100 to go with me to dinner, she is my escort. I'm not sure why that is hard to understand.

  • edited September 2019

    How do you know that escorts provide sex a lot of the time? How do you know that pro cuddlers don't?

    The lady I'm friends with in Michigan is a high-end provider who has been in the business for over a decade, and she has met and duoed with other escorts from all over the country. Part of her blogging is to show people the behind-the-scenes look at her life as a high-end "companion", and on her tumblr she often answered questions from anonymous users. One such question which sticks with me was worded something like this: "Hi there, I love your blog and I've been thinking about trying out becoming an escort myself, but the sex aspect really bothers me. Are there clients out there who would be willing to just hold hands, or kiss, or just do non-sexual things with you for the money instead?"

    She answered this person honestly, and told them that high-end escorting only looks like fun and easy work where you don't have to be intimate with your client. Also that there are likely clients out there seeking platonic interactions, but most will expect sex on the table at some point. The number would be so few that she warned this person she'd be devastatingly disappointed if they honestly went into the hobby thinking she'd find it.

    I know that there are under-the-table favours going on with some people on here, that I can't deny, and I told you this in PM so I'm not sure why you're asking it here. My hope is that they are caught out or can decide which road to take, because mixing the two is not smart. Pro cuddlers who advertise or have available somewhere a sensual image are very likely either misguided about how their portrayal affects the perception of this industry, or indeed they might be hinting at something else, or maybe they just take photos like that and don't care to present themselves any other way. Some go the "sex sells" route, and it's clearly working for some. I can't give you a figure obviously, but I never denied that it's happening.

  • edited September 2019

    That still doesn't change the fact that an escort gets paid to accompany a man at a social event.

    If your friend is being paid for sex she can go to jail because that is prostitution.

    Again, one more time since you didn't understand the first time.

    If I go online and hire a girl and pay her to go dinner with me, she is my escort.

  • edited September 2019

    I never claimed that escorts don't get paid to go to social events. You making this statement doesn't negate the fact that many sell that sensuality at a certain price for a reason. You are the one claiming that @Sheena123 is an escort because she'll go with someone to a concert or an outing. So, if in your opinion there's nothing wrong with (or illegal about) being an escort, why do you have such a bone to pick? I'm beginning to think you're confused about where you want to go with your point, and also that you're deliberately trolling.

    An escort is indeed a person who accompanies another person elsewhere, that's pretty common sense, whether money exchanges hands or not... but I don't think an escort who doesn't have sex is what you're talking about here. Otherwise, why get so heated about what's on her profile?

  • @Catlouf. I have a bone to pick because @Sheena123 claims not to be an escort, when she clearly is.

    That was my point. Nothing else.

    @Sheena123 is an escort because she takes money from men to go on dates with them.

    End of story. Not sure why that was so hard to understand.

  • ...Except most escorts will be expected to cultivate an organic sexual relationship with at least one (or let's be real, most of) her clients, at some point. Just like "sugar babies". It isn't prostitution because the sexual favour itself isn't paid for... her time is. And the money they are paid for such favours are often considered "gifts", as far as the IRS is concerned. Or at least that was what my friend told me.

    Here's some reading for you. The internet seems to agree with what I've been told, straight from a veteran escort's mouth. Catloaf audi.

    https://www.quora.com/Do-escorts-always-have-sex-with-you
    http://www.howtobecomeanescort.net/start-escorting/is-escorting-for-me/what-do-escorts-do
    https://www.reddit.com/r/ForeverAlone/comments/5kss66/how_does_having_sex_with_an_escort_go/
    https://www.reddit.com/r/NoStupidQuestions/comments/3ka111/do_escorts_ever_refuse_to_have_sex_with_you/

  • edited September 2019

    Those women who claim to be escorts are really prostitutes.

    Again, a prostitute provides sex and an escort does not.

    Anybody who gets paid to go on a date is an escort.

    Anybody that gets paid to have sex is a prostitute.

  • edited September 2019

    I hate to make this statement, because I usually preach against blanketing populations... but again... how many men do you honestly think are going to shell out $250-$500 bucks an hour (or a donation of $2000 a night, let's say) and not get sexual gratification in return at some point? Be honest with yourself here. I'm not saying they're not out there... but ask even people who don't know an escort, or know anything about hobbyism, and you will find that most are aware that sexual services are provided. Most people however confuse escorts with "common" prostitutes.

    Officially done with this discussion. Have fun and a nice day.

  • You would be surprised, but many men (especially older men) are willing to pay for companionship. It makes them feel young again. Not everything is about sex.

  • [Deleted User]DarrenWalker (deleted user)

    @Catloaf: Well said and well done. Count me in with the group that's heading out—it's been fun and I had a good run, but the rising of the sun means for now I'm done.

    ...Seriously, I'm getting so sleepy over here.

  • He’s been banned ☺️

  • [Deleted User]SoulcuddlerZ (deleted user)

    Closed. 06 SEP 2019 11:51 EDT

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