HRH The Duke of Edinburgh

edited April 2021 in General

I've been thinking about this and I've decided I do want to say a word about His Royal Highness The Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, Earl of Merioneth, Baron Greenwich, Royal Knight of the Most Noble Order of the Garter, Extra Knight of the Most Ancient and Most Noble Order of the Thistle, Member of the Order of Merit, Knight Grand Cross of the Royal Victorian Order, Grand Master and First and Principal Knight Grand Cross of the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire, Knight of the Order of Australia, Additional Member of the Order of New Zealand, Extra Companion of the Queen’s Service Order, Royal Chief of the Order of Logohu, Extraordinary Companion of the Order of Canada, Extraordinary Commander of the Order of Military Merit, Lord of Her Majesty’s Most Honourable Privy Council, Privy Councillor of the Queen’s Privy Council for Canada, Personal Aide-de-Camp to Her Majesty, Lord High Admiral of the United Kingdom. As you probably know, he was the husband of HM The Queen and he died the other day, two months short of his hundredth birthday.

There is much flim and flam about the Royal Family in the media, all of which misses the point. A moment thinking about Prince Phillip will bring you back to the point.

How's this for a life.

  • Born a Prince
  • Rescued by the Royal Navy as a toddler, following a revolution. He was carried to safety in a fruit box.
  • Mother diagnosed with schizophrenia and placed in an asylum
  • From the age of about six he had very little contact with his family, and was sent to a variety of schools in different countries
  • Graduated from the Royal Naval College, Dartmouth in 1940, both top of his class and Best Cadet
  • Mentioned in Dispatches for his contribution at the Battle of Cape Matapan (and also awarded the Greek War Cross)
  • Served in combat areas throughout almost the whole of the Second World War
  • Obtained remarkably high marks in promotion exams and became one of the youngest ship second-in-commands in the Navy
  • Reached the rank of Commander .... (he was a very capabable officer and there is no dispute that he would have achieved very high rank in the Royal Navy on his own merit)
  • ... before abandoning his very successful career for the sake of the woman he loved
  • Upon being reunited with the Queen after the Coronation ceremony, he eyed her crown and remarked: “Where did you get that hat?”
  • Joint-founded the Duke of Edinburgh Award, a programme for creating and recognising achievement by young people, which over 8 million people have completed
  • Was talking publically about the environment in the 1950s, long before it was fashionable, and helped establish the World Wildlife Fund
  • Eventually became Patron of over 800 organisations, particularly focused on the environment, industry, sport, and education
  • Practically invented the sport of carriage driving and was a leading competitor
  • On the island of Tanna in Vanuatu, through no fault of his own, he was revered as a god
  • By all accounts, was happily married for 74 years.
  • Had four children, eight grandchildren and ten great-grandchildren so far
  • Was instrumental in modernising the monarchy
  • Undertook over 22,000 public engagements on his own, along with tens of thousands of others in company with the Queen. Made 5,500 speeches (about two a week on average)
  • Worked as Consort for 55 years, without actual pay, retiring at the age of 95

He could be unpardonably rude, and at times he did give offence. But that's the worst that anybody could say about him.

Comments

  • [Deleted User]Mmart (deleted user)

    @CuddleDuncan
    Thanks for the post on an influential world figure.

  • [Deleted User]DeadGirlWalking (deleted user)

    This is really interesting- I didn't know half of these things about him.

    What a well-lived life he had.

  • [Deleted User]creedhands (deleted user)

    Time to ask an ignorant American question. If he married a queen, why wasn't he a king?

  • edited April 2021

    @creedhands it's old fashioned sexism really. If a king regnant marries, then the wife becomes a queen consort. But if a queen regnant marries, the husband can't become a king because king is higher than queen. So he doesn't become anything. (Although I'm sure this varies depending on country and era.)

    Prince Phillip was a prince of Greece and Denmark (I think) in his own right. Then he got married, and as part of all the arrangements he had to become properly British which meant he had to give up being a prince. So then he wasn't a prince, for about ten years, until the Queen made him a British Prince and he became a prince again. I doubt he cared very much about any of it.

  • @BuggleBear I may be wrong but I think you have to come from royal blood to be king and it wasn't in his bloodline

  • [Deleted User]DeadGirlWalking (deleted user)
    edited April 2021

    @pmvines think you tagged the wrong person there my lovely.

    @CuddleDuncan he was Prince of Greece and Denmark, that is correct.

  • Oops yes sorry meant @creedhands

  • [Deleted User]creedhands (deleted user)

    That's interesting. I thought the title of prince was reserved for sons of the king. Meaning they would be heir to a throne, or a future king. (School wasn't my strong subject.)

  • @CuddleDuncan this is a nice way of saying it’s okay to be a racist twat if you are in a family of privilege. Just saying :)

    “ He could be unpardonably rude, and at times he did give offence. But that's the worst that anybody could say about him.”

  • @gupshup06 on the contrary, I was saying it's not ok. =) But yes, I was trying to put it nicely. He did admit to being a practioner of dontopedalogy. (The science of opening your mouth and putting your foot in it.)

    @creedhands that is certainly one way to be a prince, but it's more complicated than that. For example, although we are familiar mostly with kingdoms, there used to be independent states which were principalities (ruled by a prince) and duchies (ruled by a duke).

    Prince Phillip was the son of a prince, but was in the line of succession for the thrones of both Denmark and Greece. And, if you looked far enough down the list, the UK since he was Queen Victoria's great great grandson ... don't quote me on the number of "greats."

  • I always understood that Prince Philip couldn't be King because he was not born British. Same as Meghan Markle could never be Queen, if Harry ever becomes King. Their children would be in line for the throne.

    A similar rule applies to naturalized US Citizens - they're not able to become President because they're not born American. Using Meghan and Harry as examples again, Meghan could become President, Harry could not, but their children could. Conspiracy theorists would go nuts over that - British Royal as President - there goes the Republic...

  • Now that's an interesting one .... Meghan simultaneously Queen Consort over here and President over there. =)

    Yes, Meghan would most likely be Queen in the very unlikely event (6th in line) of Harry becoming King. But remember that rules are made by Parliament and/or the Monarch, and can be (and are) changed to suit particular circumstances.

    Prince Phillip adopted British citizenship before his marriage. There is no provision anywhere in UK law (as far as I know) for being 'born British' being a different thing.

    There are rules about becoming a Member of Parliament but being 'born British' isn't one of them: in fact, you don't even have to be British at all. Becoming Prime Minister is a matter for Parliament, and therefore there are no rules.

  • [Deleted User]DarkLordChungus (deleted user)

    Man, people can do some pretty neat things when they're born into a position of extreme privilege—in this case a position with inextricable historical ties to concepts like divine blood and "purity".

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