Just my thoughts. Standards are low.

dsmith42dsmith42
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It’s cool to see more people join on here and this post isn’t directly bashing anyone.
I just wish there were more guidelines in place to ensure that right type of people become professional. And by that I mean that people have a background psychology or but you have to take a short course and earn a certificate. There are just a lot of people that simply want to make money and can “stand cuddling” versus having an actual interest in cuddle therapy. And I understand part of it is the pandemic and lack of jobs, I just wish that there weren’t so many people just looking to make a quick buck and setting their price at $150+ and then they realize after 2 weeks that no one wants to pay that much so they delete their profile.

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  • pmvinespmvines

    I am sure plenty of pros would like the standards and quality of clients to be a bit higher and held more accountable as well....

  • cuddletime222cuddletime222

    I agree it works both ways. However, clients are not advertising a service. They are paying for a service. In the last month I have had 1 no show who text they were on their way (and never responded to my text as to why they did not show up) and 4 cancelations from 3 different "pros" after appointments were made (3 of them on the day of or a few hours before appt). I have been on CC for over 2 years and have never seen it like this. I know this is not all the "pros" but it definitely is discouraging.

  • pmvinespmvines
    edited April 2021

    @cuddletime222 It's not respectful to refer to someone by placing quotations around them. That usually tends to imply you dont take them seriously or as being valid. It is my hypothesis that if this is the case and I am correct re your feelings towards pro cuddlers , then perhaps they might get the feeling from you that you do not respect them and you give off the vibes of someone who they wouldn't want to have as a client . That is a hypothesis, which might or might not be true

  • TheNewNovelistTheNewNovelist

    I believe the feedback (karma) is a good measure of a provider’s professionalism. My first cuddle was with a highly-rated cuddler and she lived up to it. (See my Karma section-she was wonderful!).

    The only concern I have is when you reach out to a potential provider, or even book something, and they don’t even have the courtesy to reply one way or the other. Those profiles tend to make me skeptical about their authenticity. Also, profiles that are way too brief, with a blank statement section strike me as suspicious.

    @dsmith42 , your thought about a “quick buck” is right on.

  • CuddleDuncanCuddleDuncan Mod

    @dsmith42 Cuddle Comfort is a social networking site, like twitter or facebook. For various reasons it is very keen to avoid the perception of being an agency. Consequently, it is never going to apply any serious rules as to who can call themselves a professional cuddler, in the same way that twitter doesn't have any serious rules about who can call themselves a professional cuddler. Caveat emptor.

    What the site does do, and is very good at, is ban people who break the Terms of Service.

    @pmvines seconded.

  • BelizeanQueenBelizeanQueen
    edited April 2021

    As a pro, seeing this is upsetting. I’ve honestly never browsed the site long enough to realize that there are some pros that charge $150+. I understand wanting a better quality of clients as I would expect a client wanting the same thing from a pro but I’m pretty curious, the pros that are charging that much... have they ever explained why their rates are what they are? That’s insane 😳

    Sidenote: I definitely feel that the application process to become a pro, could be better... to try to help weed those that are here with the wrong intentions.

  • cuddletime222cuddletime222

    @pmvines and @CuddleDuncan You are way off in your understanding of my post and totally missed the point. And the quotation around the "pros" was meant to be in reference to the ones who did not conduct themselves as such. And let's be honest, the term pros simply means they get paid for their service. It does not mean they have any professional training. I highly respect those who take this seriously and I have had some really good ones.

  • MaullySterlingMaullySterling

    @cuddletime222 Not so. I know of 2 pros on this site who have done training through other avenues, for the purpose of cuddling. I'm sure there's others, but I don't browse profiles of pros. Was just fascinated, when I came across it.

  • cuddletime222cuddletime222

    @MaullySterling Please read my statement again. I never said there were no pros on here without training. I simply stated that the term pros simply means they get paid for their service. It does not mean they have any professional training.

  • CuddleStellaCuddleStella

    something to keep in mind is that while the cost of entry for being a professional cuddler may be low to start, in the long term, the ones who keep it 100% about the work will always have a better track record of positive feedback and business. and this is coming from myself who has been cuddling since 2017 - some people I've seen come and go and charge the prices they charge and I find that it never matters just how much they charge, the folks who stick with the cuddle profession because it's what they enjoy AND are good at will always have their profiles stand out the strongest. of course, not everyone is going to go to them first because often time as professionals, we have our ways to vet cuddlers and we have our boundaries too. our prices may be fair to some while unfair to others - those who become regular cuddlers with us will know why first hand why we charge the prices we do. market prices or not... people with cuddling know what they are looking for and the demand is there. if someone cuddles for less than $100 and that works for others to pay, great! if they charge more, then they know they have their market for that if they find their paying audience, hoping they are sticking to the code of conduct of course.

  • Star2021Star2021

    @pmvines -- don't be so condescending buddy ! Pros get to pick and chose who they cuddle with PLUS as anyone knows, except apparently you, when someone goes into business they accept the good with the bad and should know this going in. And I am sure there are plenty of guys that pay for a Pro that would expect that a Pro would know how to cuddle especially if they are charging a fee and that doesnt always happen.

  • GaryGary Mod

    I'm very sympathetic to clients who receive less than professional service/generally unhappy. I would strongly encourage adding karma (if you've had a session) to a professionals profile. That way other clients can have a more informed idea what sessions will be like.

  • OhioMikeOhioMike

    I'm confused that there is a lack of jobs out here. With all the job openings out there unfilled I am glad pros are staying here. Just my thoughts also. :)

  • pmvinespmvines

    @StarRider how about dont tell me what to post buddy 👍 my experiences here have been extremely positive without input or advice from others. I am allowed to say what I wish , just as you and @cuddletime222 are allowed to disagree with what I say . Difference is that I actually have a decent track record and have no issues making connections on here . Maybe if folks stopped focusing on making thread after thread to air their grievances about how things aren't going the way they like and be receptive to thoughts and opinions of others then there would be a little bit more success? For example. If I were a pro cuddler and read post after post complaining about pros and putting the word pro in quotations when writing it which is a bit belittling, I might be less likely to want to cuddle with that person. One of many examples but that's one that is relevant to this thread. But folks dont seem to be interested in self reflection . It is much more cathartic to jump on board and stay stuck spinning your wheels in all the pissing and moaning about how bad you have it and how it is other people's faults because that seems to be what most peole identify with . So call me condescending all you want . I will keep doing things the way I do them , and keep having more cuddles than I can keep up with

  • [Deleted User]SoftPetals (deleted user)

    @pmvines 🤗

  • UCpaaHVg6u0UCpaaHVg6u0
    edited April 2021

    Void

  • CrizRCrizR

    @pmvines I disagree with some of what you're saying. Yes, people should look at themselves and see what they should do to improve themselves to be more successful in the current reality.

    But it's certainly not too much to ask for a professional to have some qualification for being a pro. Even if it's just a brief training video or providing some cuddling resources to people who sign up as pros, so they can inform themselves on the basics of what they are supposed to be offering. It doesn't have to be an official certification or a psychology degree.

    No disrespect to anyone but it does seem like there are a decent amount of women who just sign up as a pro looking for a quick buck but don't know or haven't been taught or shown anything about cuddling. Again, everyone wants and needs more money so I get it but it feels kind of weird to meet some pros who expect me to teach/guide them about cuddling during a session, when I'm paying them.

    It's not a huge deal and I'm not mad about it. Often it's cool to help out an inexperienced cuddler even as the client. But doing something to train or help new pros could be beneficial.

  • WKplatonicWKplatonic

    Well said, @CrizR, well said!

  • MaullySterlingMaullySterling
    edited April 2021

    And who will pay for that training?

    If I was pro, I'd be charging way above average because of training, courses, expertise, experience, but the ones whining about how expensive regular rates are, the professional's abilities, or lack thereof, are still not going to get a reply.

    No matter what industry, one thing is consistent. The ones that request a lower rate at the start, are more demanding AND less satisfied, overall. So, my usual rate (not talking about cuddling, btw) is $98 more than the union posted rate, and any production manager / producer doesn't want to pay it, I'm happy to avoid them. But the ones that do? Generally give a pretty fine gift at the end of contract, because they appreciated my services.

  • HeartU2HeartU2

    I’ve had cuddle inquiries that once I explain my boundaries just disappear. My issue at late is that ppl will make appointments without contacting a cuddler then become upset when the appointment is canceled. It’s a respect issue.

  • MaullySterlingMaullySterling
    edited April 2021

    @HeartU2 Clarification, please.

    Ppl can book an appointment, without you being available, or having had any discussion???

    I assumed that if someone tried to book, they would see a calendar of available days / times?
    Don't you have the option of blocking out times that you're otherwise busy?

    Maybe a toggle switch for approved clients to access this page?

  • sunnysideupsunnysideup
    edited April 2021

    It seems there are two somewhat distinct categories of professional (these are both from Oxford)

    1) "relating to or belonging to a profession."
    2) "worthy of or appropriate to a professional person; competent, skillful, or assured."

    The requirement for CC to be a pro falls more under definition one. As mentioned before, CC is primarily a social networking site so regulation is minimal outside of a grievous breach of TOS. There are some rules of professionalism required like being open to cuddle everyone, but I suspect that a majority of professionals are still going to be highly selective be it due to very little time available (side gig) or still having an enthusiast mindset (due to minimal qualifiers required).

    There some true professionals on CC that I would consider as falling under category 2). Some indicators may be large amounts of positive karma, a detailed profile, and showing past experience in a related field.

    Just like professionals have to vet their clients to some degree, as clients we should do the same to avoid being burned. It would be nice if there were more standards but it is what it is.

  • cuddletime222cuddletime222

    @pmvines Did you not read the entire post and the explanation about the quotation marks about pros? Or just choose to cherry pick and take things out of context to support your views? Why be so negative and controversial? What part did you not understand and why continue to harp on it? Again, you have missed the entire point of my post because of it. Let me give it to you again …the quotation around the "pros" was meant to be in reference to the ones who did not conduct themselves as such (not to belittle all pros as you alleged). And let's be honest, the term pros simply means they get paid for their service. It does not mean they have any professional training even though some do. I highly respect those who take this seriously and I have had some really good ones...they are the pros.

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