@Amortentia: You'd feel "safer"? How is that different from feeling safer, no quotation marks? Are you putting "safer" in scare quotes to indicate that no, you really wouldn't feel any safer at all?
And how close are you getting to other people's pets that they're breathing on you?
Not sure if you're a freak or just live in an area with a lot of really irresponsible animal owners.
And yeah, I'll take your painted picture and fill it out: I totally think that people with immune deficiencies are people, and deserve all the consideration needed to keep them healthy that we give everyone else—yes, even if keeping them safe is more inconvenient than we're used to.
Unless what you're actually saying is that me wanting folks to be extra careful about what germs they pick up and spread around during a global pandemic is ridiculous?
Because the lack of caution is what's left me coughing every other breath (over six months after "recovery," note well), so I don't think wanting more caution is a desire worthy of ridicule.
@DarrenWalker you missed every point I made. Forget your pet wearing a mask around me. I'm not worried about the pet one bit. For you I'd recommend a full body suit around me. I don't think a mask will make me feel safe.
Let's agree to disagree. Nothing else can be done here.
"You're hurting me!"
"No, I'm not."
"Yes, you are! It hurts! What you're doing is hurting me, it hurts!"
"No, it doesn't."
"Yes, it really, really does! Please, please, stop!"
"You know what, I don't think we're going to see eye to eye here. Let's just agree to disagree."
@DarrenWalker also since you got covid before make sure to try something different. Second time could be worse. That full body suit could definitely help though. Can never be too cautious right?
@Amortentia: I caught Covid, despite all my precautions, because of people engaging in the behavior you're advocating: risk-taking, close contact, virus-spreading behavior.
Their risks, with which they were comfortable, crippled me.
I'm telling you that what you're doing can and has hurt people. I can't protect myself from all of you (and the good lord knows I'm trying—oh god, I'm trying)!
Please, I'm saying, please stop.
@DarrenWalker one catches the virus because of their own fault. Please get that body suit!
For some reason I feel if I'd take you to my clinic you'd freak out so bad you won't just get a body suit but will become the next bubble boy. Then we'll have to teach you that hospitals will have some close contact with patients and must take risks for your own good. Hopefully then you won't try to remove essential businesses out of business. But who knows... I'm just an optimist but at times it feels like that's just wishful thinking. But gosh dang some people just don't understand that not everything is freaken as logical to do as their brain thinks.
@Amortentia: ...So. Because I took risks—ones I couldn't avoid, and mitigated as best I could—it's my fault that the people I encountered were risk-takers who mitigated nothing and took no precautions... and infected me.
What kind of medical professional are you?
@DarrenWalker great question! My state is currently considering to give people like me $10,000 in hero pay during this time for what I do for people like you. If you lived here what hero pay would you get? Absolutely nothing. Now stop trying to put essential businesses out of businesses or maybe be more thankful if you get covid again and come to us for help. We'd still risk being around your covid or whatever else you get whether you deserve it or not. Shame on you.
@DarrenWalker
I'll bet five dollars that she works at a homeopathic/alternative "clinic".
@DarkLordChungus no lol. And great you're against healthcare workers too. We're not going out of business. Shame on you too. What have people turned into these days?
You, sir, are killing businesses. You are directly responsible for innumerable businesses shutting down.
Ha. Haha. HAHAHA.
@DarkLordChungus he's not killing anything nor can he with that thought process. Have you read anything that was being said?
@Amortentia
I'm not against healthcare professionals. I'm against you and the stupid bullshit you're spewing.
Your being eligible for hero pay means nothing to me.
@DarkLordChungus seems like you are against. So you're saying that we too should keep away from people and next time you walk in for help we should say sorry I will not help you because this or that? That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. And yet when some healthcare workers wanted to take a break they were forced not to by people like you. How does that make any sense at all?
@DarkLordChungus: Yup. And I have the amazing ability to force people to expose themselves to all kinds of germs, then drop by my place of work and smear everything they've picked up all over the store, plus breathing the collection in my face.
I alone have this power. Fear me, because I can make you a walking viral fountain.
@Amortentia: ...Wow. How does your brain translate "please don't take unnecessary risks—please keep yourself as safe to be around as possible" into "please stop doing your job"?
You seem to be suffering from an overinflated ego and an unwarranted sense of self-importance, given that you use all healthcare workers as a sort of shield for any sort of backlash.
I'm not criticizing healthcare workers in general. I'm criticizing you and your nonsensical hyperbole.
There is a vast difference.
This is like critiquing a solider who shot a bunch of civilian children, and dealing with a storm of nonsense from patriots who wail "YOU HATE THE TROOPS AND AMERICA."
Get some perspective.
@DarrenWalker thanks. So don't tell me to stop what I'm doing then. See how easy was that? Convo is settled now.
@Amortentia: Stop doing the bad stuff. Keep doing the good stuff (assuming you're doing any good stuff).
@DarkLordChungus you didn't even answer my question. And thanks for the opinion. But I'm asking about what the facts were in the situation of my question. Let's focus on facts not opinions please.
@DarrenWalker same to you. Don't get covid again.
@Amortentia: If it were in my power to avoid, I wouldn't have caught it the first time. People doing the same bad stuff you do—taking unnecessary risks, exposing themselves (and me) to greater danger than they needed to—infected me.
I assume you're doing some good stuff. But man, all I've got behind that assumption is some really wishful thinking.
That's because I deemed your question unworthy of a response. Now, I get it, you feel a dire need to be a martyr for all healthcare workers everywhere—but I don't find that at all compelling.
Stop trying to use others in your professional field as a shield, drop the martyr complex, and try again.
@DarrenWalker that's what healthcare workers do! Oh m gee. And you say you don't want us to do our jobs but yet don't like what we do. I can't win. I surrender. Just stop talking about this. I don't even care any more.
@DarkLordChungus that's because the answer exposes a hypocrite. And with that being said we don't need to further continue this meaningless subject.
@Amortentia: Healthcare workers deliberately expose themselves to unnecessary risk of illness outside work, thus exposing their patients to greater risk than necessary as well? OMG indeed.
I had no idea that was just what healthcare workers did.
@DarrenWalker you're getting somewhere here! This is where you need to take it to the higher people and make sure all patients wear masks too since not all are required. But doubt it can be done. We must take it as is. Unless you feel like trying the battle? I will support you 100%!
"I made awful points that painted me in a bad light, then I tried to hide behind every healthcare worker in existence, and now I'm trying to escape via the high ground."
Hilarious. Absolutely hilarious.
@Amortentia: Requiring all patients to wear masks will stop you from cuddling maskless outside work? The things I'm learning tonight.
Will it also stop you from telling people that the risks they take with a communicable disease don't endanger others, and if their poor decisions end in them infecting somebody with a weak immune system who would otherwise have been safe, it's the fault of the person they infected?