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  • While @Ahmedali999 has said some very uncomfortable things, I really can't stand the lack of punctuation.

    Seriously my dude if you write only the words then you can have misunderstanding especially if you say weird stuff I suggest that you should try reading your words out loud and if you need to take a breath at least throw a comma in there I feel like im drunk when im trying to read that

  • edited July 2021

    @Big_Chris i hear what you are saying but i don't know if i agree as i think that commas while sometimes useful are oftentimes overused resulting in a break from stream of consciousness and since stream of consciousness is pure unfiltered truth coming from our firing neurons directly to out mouth why sully something so pure with use of punctuation which is most definitely always an afterthought as the mammalian monkey brain is spewing the thought and the logical override such as punctuation is basically postprocessing we have something to learn from our unrestrained primate cousins and don't get me started on bonobos

  • [Deleted User]squeakytoy (deleted user)

    NO, PLEASE STOP, YOU GUYS ARE MELTING MY LAST BRAIN

  • edited August 2021

    Let's make sure we keep talking in one long incredibly unbroken sentence moving from topic to topic so that no one has a chance to interrupt i hear it is really quite hypnotic. I wonder if anyone will get that reference?

  • edited August 2021

    @Big_Chris the topic is about new guy asking questions not punctuations.
    Very funny guy trying to make fun of my punctuation, you not going to get cuddles by making fun of me if u don't like what i write just move on. If your punctuations better than mine good for you. Be humble no one is perfect. Making fun of people doesn't make you perfect person. learn morality.

  • edited August 2021

    @squeakytoy well said I will @MCcuddles2 if my posts make you uncomfortable don't read it man up. You trying to make me look bad and you a hero. I never said anything wrong i just asked question.

  • @Ahmedali999 I apologize. My previous post was meant to demonstrate confusion, not to poke fun. I really had difficulty understanding you, potentially leading to finding some of your comments uncomfortable. The changes you've made have significantly improved the readability of your posts.

    Now, to the matter at hand. You have not outright said anything wrong or hurtful. The things you have said have carried implications, for example:

    "Man up" in your previous post. It may not be intentional but that phrase is pre-loaded with toxic masculinity. Cultural differences aside, it has a connotation of unproductive gender biases at best.

    "if my pro wearing shorts can I touch her leg" You frame this as an innocent question. However; the question itself suggests a fundamental misunderstanding of consent. So "just" asking the question alone has additional meaning, and implies you have until this point thought clothes were a potential signal of consent. This place is great and has great people, and I know there will be people from all walks of life that end up here. It's important to educate about consent, and it's good that you're asking questions. It just makes some people feel uncomfortable that you have such a large gap in understanding.

    "Some don't mind the ones I like" Again, this is very worrying. If a woman "doesn't mind" you touching them, the implication is that you may not have full consent in that situation. If you don't like women who don't like being touched, it just seems like you try touching them first and then you like the ones who don't voice a concern. That is not consent.

    I'm glad you're asking questions here, and I hope you can learn what consent means and how it affects cuddling. I fear you have so much to learn that can't be learned here. Please read up on consent, both these forums and YouTube.

  • The content is discomforting , not the punctuation.

  • Thanks, @Big_Chris , for bringing the discussion back on track. While I agree with @Ahmedali999 that we should not make fun of his English, I agree with you and @pmvines that what makes us feel uncomfortable is what he’s saying, not how he’s saying it. Consent and respect are just indispensable when it comes to cuddling — and of course they’re important elsewhere as well.

  • @Big_Chris my bad perhaps my question is uncomfortable for some members who had bad experiences but it's important question so I learn so future time I don't anything to go wrong. By the way not only women get sexual assault men do aswell but i never experienced in cuddle comfort.

  • @Ahmedali999 I am sure anyone not living under a rock knows that men get assaulted too. However bringing that up in a context like this shows that you are changing the subject/making it about you/men. Rather than simply processing the topic at hand, which is about the comfort of women and the struggles they experience. You wouldn't go up to someone whose parent died and tell him/ "siblings die too!" Right? At least, I hope you wouldn't. Nobody here thus far said anything about men being incapable of being victims either. So bringing that up in a context like this, is unwarranted and can be provocative.

  • edited August 2021

    @Love light you are right I shouldn't 🤗

  • edited August 2021

    @Ahmedali999 It doesn't matter what genders get assaulted. What matters is what you do and that you dont assault people . If I were to take some of your comments at face value and literal meaning , then I could actually summize that you have engaged in behavior that could be considered as assault. I hope that is not the case. Like a said , literal face value interpretation of some of your comments have given that impression.

  • edited August 2021

    @Ahmedali999 :)

    Edit: You tagged someone else though. :P

  • @pmvines will said I'm learning from you guys

  • How is anyone still buying into this crap?

    And how is this guy still allowed to be on here??

    Seriously, WTF is going on??

    People who ask questions about policies or decisions made get shut down or banned... While another, who openly admitted to assaulting at least two women from CC gets a timeout, then comes back and is again displaying his complete disregard for boundaries and women, and he gets another fricken warning?!!!

    I don't give a flying fig what he's "learning" here or how he doesn't use punctuation. He should go get woke elsewhere! He shouldn't be here where those who don't participate in the forums might enter into in a setting that could seriously put them at risk of being violated by this guy (or worse)!

    Sure, people should do their due diligence before meeting up with someone. But the writing is literally on the forum wall here.

    It's disgusting and unsettling, and I feel re-victimized just by seeing him here.

    And @Ahmedali999 - "if my posts make you uncomfortable don't read it man up. You trying to make me look bad and you a hero. I never said anything wrong i just asked question."

    One - You make yourself look bad!
    Two - Anyone preaching to respect the rights and boundaries of another or is admonishing you is a HERO!
    Three - Yes, you did say something wrong! You've said many things wrong and no doubt will continue to say things that are wrong.
    Four - No you didn't just ask a question. You're doing exactly what you've done in other threads and will likely continue if allowed to remain here.
    Five and Final - You are utterly disgraceful and should be ashamed of yourself for both your behavior and your pride in it. You may be fooling some, but you're not fooling me.

    I have nothing else to say on this. I'M OUT.

  • edited August 2021

    @quixotic_life God forgive you my 2 pro are my best friends maybe 1 of them i fall in love with it wasn't in my hand love it's not a crime when I said i grab them meaning i i cuddle them tightly without letting them go they are fine with where's assault in that prove it i i never said anything wrong i asked a question which important to ask otherwise something can go wrong. God punished Your friend @DarrenWalker got deleted he is a bully and got deleted he is the one who light the fire. my 2 pro are my best friends 1 of them put karama for me on here. From now on I wouldn't comment on these kind of subjects
    God forgive me
    Regards

    You've continued to provoke and bait other users after your last 10-day forum timeout. Furthermore, even though you acknowledged and accepted the moderator warning you received for your provocative and inappropriate posts, shortly afterward, when a user stated that said posts made him uncomfortable, you told him to "man up". This indicates that you have not fully understood your warning. You will be timed out from the forum for 30 days this time. Please carefully consider your interactions with other users in the future. If you continue to provoke others in the forum, and write things that are alarming and concerning for many members of the community, you may lose your forum privileges entirely. Thanks. -squeakytoy

  • You say you're here to learn but you reject criticism and cite your karma here as evidence. Grabbing people without letting them go is a crime without consent, which you have demonstrated to not respect.

    Claiming you're in love with one of your pros isn't a good look either. Saying "prove it" when confronted dismisses the fucked up things you're saying.

    God had nothing to do with Darrenwalker's deletion, shifting the blame to him is weird and wrong.

    Why are you advertising your Instagram? Private acct, no picture, no posts.

    Imagine I walk into a kindergarden and ask if it's OK to hit a kid, then they tell me no and I say "oh thanks I'm still learning how kids work". Then someone asks me to leave, I'm probably not safe around kids and I say "no it's fine kids don't mind it, you can't prove anything"

    Something of a straw man, to be sure, but I think it illustrates the bad faith arguments you're making. I used to be willing to give the beniefit of the doubt, maybe write off some things as a non-native speaker having difficulty. I didn't know how pervasive the comments have been, that this isn't the first time.

  • @Ahmedali999

    "when I said i grab them meaning i i cuddle them tightly without letting them go they are fine with where's assault in that prove it"

    I was giving you the benefit of the doubt up until now. Though I too am done. The moment you showed you aren't truly willing to own up to the messed up things you said and be better. I can't act like your parent or something to try to teach you basic manners. It takes a toll on people to especially have to try to teach an adult basic human decency for free and particularly one who says he's learning one minute. Then denies the issue the next.

    Grabbing them or not letting them go without consent is... wait for it... ASSAULT! Which is what what you said shows. "They were fine with it" Were they, though?! Or did they just look like so because as you said yourself "even my pro cuddlers are sacred of me to tell me time finished i go mental i add another 1/2 hour or 1 hour i also try to convince them to cancel other appointments 😍 "

    "The most things i love about life cuddles and massages before i discover cuddle therapy I spent more than 20k £ on massages over the last 5 years when i discovered cuddle therapy last year i was crazy about it as long as i get my salary I run for cuddles even my pro cuddlers are sacred of me to tell me time finished i go mental i add another 1/2 hour or 1 hour i also try to convince them to cancel other appointments 😍 i grab them i don't want leave they are so cute when I do that . Yes I'm crazy so what those the only things I love about life without them i wouldn't even survive in this suffering life. I call cuddles heaven life hell." - https://www.cuddlecomfort.com/forum/discussion/comment/128420#Comment_128420

    I think you are more than capable of knowing how to act right and respect women. Which leads me to think you might be trolling and or intentionally choosing to disregard the safety and well being of women.

  • @greshpo ~ Just wanted to say sorry for participating in the further derailment of your thread and that I appreciate you as a new comer, posting a question about something that could easily go sideways if not approached in the right way.

    I too am a skin to skin maximizer, though some fabrics are also really nice... But I've just asked the other if they're okay with me wearing yoga type shorts and a tank top, and if so, would they be comfortable wearing something similar.

    But all that said, I think it's true that men probably need to consider adding in an understanding and/or clarifying statement to go with their 'less is more' message.

    Perhaps something like...
    "When/if we cuddle, I'd prefer wearing shorts and a tank top. Would that be okay for you? I like to have skin to skin contact when able, but more important is ensuring I'm always within my partner's comfort zone and I'm being respectful of their boundaries."

  • @quixotic_life "Perhaps something like...
    "When/if we cuddle, I'd prefer wearing shorts and a tank top. Would that be okay for you? I like to have skin to skin contact when able, but more important is ensuring I'm always within my partner's comfort zone and I'm being respectful of their boundaries."

    Wow, that's well put too! :)

  • edited August 2021

    @greshpo - regarding skin to skin contact:

    Let the woman decide how much skin she feels comfortable exposing and/or having contact and accept it. Don’t ask for more. If you let her lead it will allow her to feel more comfortable with you.

    Regarding punctuation, etc.: the purpose of correct spelling, punctuation, etc., is to facilitate clear communication. The lack of or misuse of it can make it difficult to understand what someone is trying to communicate and easily leads to misunderstanding.

    Consider the two sentences:

    Panda eats shoots and leaves.

    Panda eats, shoots, and leaves.

    One does not need to be fastidious about it to respect that modest attempts at using punctuation and decent sentence structure are going to make it easier for others to read and correctly comprehend what is written. If you want to be understood, make yourself easy to understand.

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