@Mike403 Agree 💯
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Regarding what I do and do not accept as “real”:
If someone makes a claim, I expect that they should be able to support the claim with evidence.
I do not accept “beliefs” as “real” because what makes them beliefs if that they do not have evidence to support them. If there were evidence, they would no longer be a belief.
There is universal, external, objective reality and personal, internal, subjective reality. I can go to a symphony concert. The music is a universal, external, objective, reality. The music may invoke vivid imagery in my mind’s eye. That is my own subjective, internal, personal reality. It is a real personal experience but it is unique to me and is not an external, objective, universal reality. Others are experiencing their own internal experiences which may be similar or very different. Someone can record the concert and listen to the same exact performance but they will not have my exact same internal experience.
Beliefs are subjective. They are personal, not universal. Unfortunately, many people want to treat them as universal, objective reality. They argue over beliefs, ostracize others for them, kill for them, torture people over them, try to impose them on others. When one gives up a commitment to reality, it is easy to formulate beliefs that allow one to do literally anything to others. This is the problematic side of beliefs.
Objective reality is something we ought to be able to mostly agree on. Beliefs - rarely.
@Babichev theres a big difference (or thin line, depends on how you view it) between not believing, and not knowing.
People who pray to God don't even know if they're praying to the right God if one exists. They could be making Zeus really angry.
There is a bold line between believing and blindly believing.
Either its the same account , or she has a spokesperson lol.
If someone asks me if I believe in X, my answer is "no." If someone asks me if I know the answer to a question, then either I know the answer or I do not know the answer. Simple. I choose my words carefully. Don't read meaning into anything I've said or have not said that hasn't been expressed.
Wow! Another thread gets hijacked by self-appointed arbiters of truth. If someone asks, “Does anyone else talk to Jesus on the daily?” they’re asking for others who do the same to respond. It strikes me as pointless and mean to roll out a bunch of data (which was not asked for) with the intention of demonstrating the OP’s beliefs are hogwash or harmful in some attenuated way.
See my new thread “Stop Yucking People’s Yums” if you want to disagree with me. Or start a new thread if you want to start a debate about whether something someone else likes is actually crap. Thanks.
Wow! Another thread gets hijacked by self-appointed arbiters of truth. Which was not asked for!
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@MonkeyNeedsAHug - instead of vague accusations, could you be more precise about exactly how the thread has gotten hijacked by “self-appointed arbiters of truth”? Could you point out, with exact quotes, exactly where this is happening? Because all I see are people expressing a point of view.
If you are going to make the accusation, please present the evidence.
Beliefs can be powerful. Placebo effect. If someone believes that sugar pill they took is the medicine they needed to cure their ailment, their thoughts or beliefs trigger whatever hormones, chemicals, function in the body, and sometimes it works. Would they be feeling better if they knew it was just a sugar pill? What if they had just had the belief they would feel better without even taking the pill? How about the idea that when people practice something in their mind repeatedly and envision themselves doing well (and believe they will do well) they tend to do better than if all they can think about is messing up and believe that they'll do terribly?
I've had surrealistic dreams of flying with other dragons. . .
This would be a good segue to bring up DMT which exists in most living organsims on the planet which also happens to be the most powerful psychedelic and it's extracted from plants theorized we release this before we die which could explain the similarities of have a voluntray experience compared to near death experiences and it's possible our body makes it before we die.
I had a very severe car wreck and rolled my truck several times cuased by another person and walke out uninjured, but I remember every single second of the accident; the smell, the sound, the decision to wrap my head in my arms knowing I was about to start rolling to protect my head. This kind of experience is only explainable in theory, because we just don't know.
Personally, I think now wer're exploring phsychedelics in therapy, we're going to be unlocking contradciting ideas in regards to trauma and even biological chemistry we have to natural phsychadelics and understanding why a person, like myself, that does two high doses of psilocybin a year is able to not feel anxiety, self esteem issues, so forth.
Here's an interesting read about it about DMT and NDE's:
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2018.01424/full
Regarding placebo effects: they are overrated. The whole area of placebo effects is controversial. A lot of stuff gets reported as a placebo effect that isn’t - for instance, someone may take an ineffective remedy, feel better, it may be chalked up to a placebo effect when it was really just the natural progression of the condition.
Placebos only “work” for pain, nausea, and general feelings of malaise, all of which can be heavily influenced by psychosocial factors. However, placebos do not reduce the symptoms of actual medical conditions. For instance, in one study people with asthma were given either a real inhaler or a fake inhaler. Both groups reported they felt better (highly subjective, easily influenced) but only the group with the real inhalers had improved respiratory function. In other words, one can feel better although the medical condition itself has not improved. It is possible to die from asthma. It’s not a good idea to trick yourself into thinking you’re better when you have a medical condition that could cause serious problems.
I’ve been reading research on placebo effects for about 10 years now. It’s complex, complicated, controversial, and mostly misunderstood by the lay public.
@ScottyCelt - I love flying dreams, though I have not flown with dragons in any dreams.
@MonkeyNeedsAHug Thanks for suggesting Surviving Death” on Netflix. It didn't change my opinion on NDE but gave clarity on others point of view and whats going on around the world.
Yes this post was originally about near death experiences, then touched on the subject of reincarnation. I have not had any Nde's but I actually have discovered some of my Past life, experiences. Most people were not famous and would not remember some historical thing that happened in that lifetime because we are having a human experience. The things your soul remembers are about feeling, emotions personal traumas, not historical events unless they some how were personally affected by that historic event. One of my past life experiences I dreamed about ,( the most recent one before this time)but most of the others were when I was doing meditation and energy healing and working on my own traumas doing my shadow work so I can heal and be all I am meant to be and accomplish.
@Saysoh thanks for sharing that link!
@crystalJStarr ty for sharing your personal experience with us 🌌