@Ahmedali999 - Let me make it easy for you. You ask first and if they don't give a verbal "yes", you aren't allowed to touch that area. You got offended because somebody objected to touching her in an area she didn't approve of? Are you serious?
Honestly, there are too many red flags with him that I choose to ignore the language barrier. He knows not to touch someone inappropriately and yet he gets mad at the pro for removing his hand. He’s held pros pretty well against their will. He’s admitted to anger issues and threatening to sue the site. He laughs or shrugs off any issues women bring up about being harmed or put in horrible situations. Amongst so many other times he’s been inappropriate, I really don’t care if he’s now and again tried to be good. He’s constantly talked about how his pros are gorgeous, sexy, beautiful and has said he finds it hard to even sit beside a woman without an erection.
This last post is him having the audacity to be angry with a pro for removing his hand off of her chest. Remind me why he’s allowed to still be on this site? I don’t care about language barrier. He knows well enough not to touch inappropriately and he knows well enough about what women go through, so why are we still entertaining his posts and letting him constantly admit to harming or non consensually touching women??
@UCpaaHVg6u0 - Oh wow. I had no idea it was a form of pain. I'm always looking to learn. Thanks for the info!
Surprise touch of any kind isn't okay.
@Sheena123 - People make mistakes. I made my fair share of them, but I apologize and not make excuses or get angry about it.
@Mike403 yea, well, he’s made a little bit too many for me to forgive anymore. And the fact that he absolutely knows not to touch a woman’s breasts, he actually has the gall to say “I forgive her for acting harshly towards me”. Nothing to say that what he did was wrong. He touched her inappropriately and blamed her for it… yea, I don’t care what excuses people make for him. I’m done. He’s constantly admitting to acting against TOS and keeps getting a pass… stop excusing this behaviour. He knows it’s wrong and someone on this site keeps excusing it and letting it happen again and again. Too many mistakes…
@Mike403 @Green_Eyes i understand but it was difficulty an accident. removing hand is fine ☝ but i thought she though I did it intentionally, but it's fine she always good 🤗
@Ahmedali999 then why were you angry that she removed your hand? Instead of admitting what you did was wrong or saying “oops, I didn’t mean to”, you said “I decided to hide my anger and forgive her”. Forgive her for what? Correcting YOU for doing something wrong? I get it if a hand accidentally touches or grazes a part of her but let me remind you what you said. Your hand was on her chest. And you didn’t bother moving it.. so she moved it. And you got mad.. yes? And you told all of us here that you were mad at her… she obviously intentionally removed your hand. Because you should not have had your hand there. Why would you be shocked and angry at her?
@Ahmedali999 - If she thought you were trying something intentionally, she would have probably ended the session right then. Nobody wants to be with anyone who believes sexual assault is not a big deal.
Instead of understanding what you did was wrong and apologize, you got “offended “ that she removed your hand… no excuse. You screwed up and she did nothing wrong. Period.
@Sheena123 i was because the way she removed it, but its fine i know is wrong and I didn't do it internationally, Accident
@Mike403 fair points it was just moments of accident
The downward spiral of this message thread really saddens me. I'm fairly new here so I bring my own perspective perhaps. I find it ironic this website is called "cuddlecomfort" but I absolutely find no comfort here. Cuddling is supposed to help people feel better about themselves and I dont find that happening either. Through this I have found some really great people and been recently introduced to a few others who I'm grateful that they reached out to me to - so it's not a complete failure in my mind.
I also find it ironic today's date being 12/30 that we only celebrated Christmas a few days ago. (If you don't celebrate it, I think you can still relate). This season is one of the most beautiful, and special times of the year. When we wish people a Happy New Year, we express wishing them peace, love, and happiness... and maybe even forgivness. Where is the spirit of the holidays?
I hope I offered you something to think about.
I wish all of you a Happy New Year! MnkyArrow
@Sheena123 don't try to make tentions I was trying tomake points about important of communication . And gave example. I put my hands accidentally in her chest and she removed it harshly which is natural, and same moments i got offended which is natural.
@CuddleDuncan knows me well and all my pros we go to same pros Also moderators can deal with me U in America im in uk
I believe this thread has served its purpose and should be locked. It's getting depressing to read.
@mnkyArrow I am sad you feel that way and you were attacked because one person did not bother to ask for clarification. Please reconsider, there are good people on here.
@Ahmedali999 I understood what you said the first time. You accidentally touched her breast and she angrily reacted and threw your arm away with extra vigor—sounds like miscommunication to me. Unfortunately some just read you got angry without piecing the whole puzzle together. Remember you are interacting with native English speakers and not all are patient enough or trained enough to decipher your meaning. With that said, I admire your patience. But remember that mentioning unwanted or unintended touch is triggering to most people. Perhaps refrain from posting about those types of incidents until your mastery of the language improves. Not trying to censor you, just trying to save you some grief.
@FunCartel she didn't misunderstood she's trying to make everyone have ago at me intentionally. she can lead people to commit suicide by doing that very evil If @Sheena123 thinks i did it intentionally she can go to my profile and message every pro i met rather then making and twisting to make me look evil 😈 she wasn't there to witness what happened
@Ahmedali999 I know she wasn’t there and I know what you meant. I think the best thing to do is let this one go. It is not worth getting angry about. You know what happened and if she refuses to understand then all the anger in the world won’t change that. If you think someone is being evil to you then stay away from the evil. If she continues, report her to the mods.
@FunCartel it was a moment of anger and it gone .
@Ahmedali999 👍👍👍. I don’t think you will have anymore problems on this.
Regarding the original topic: I agree with @stormydaycuddle and @BellaSera. Starting off by trading information about places you do and don't want to be touched, then leading by example by asking for permission every time you change position or touch your buddy somewhere new—that sounds perfect to me.
Off topic:
Regardless of what words are used, anybody who
• expresses sexual attraction towards their cuddle buddies • tries to keep them cuddling past the time they've agreed to • touches them in ways the site forbids
...has thrown up several flaming red flags. Even without threatening suicide if buddies decide to no longer be buddies.
@Sheena123 go to my profile and message every pro i met rather than making oppression claims all my life i suffering from oppression rather than make me look evil u can lead people to commit suicide by doing that enough is enough It was accident and u try to make it i did it intentionally and makes me look bad If I'm evil 😈 as u think my pros would have reported me already don't try to be evil u made me depressed now by ur evil twisting lies
@Ahmedali999 Please stop. She has stopped and so should you. I do not want to see you get in trouble. It was wrong to be attacked without discussion or clarification but now you are trying to argue. This is not worth it! As you said, the people you have seen know what you are about. Don’t worry about someone that is thousands of miles away.
@FunCartel I'm very sensitive i can't take when someone trying to make me look evil if I'm offender my pro would report she can go to my profile and message every pro I have met , rather then trying to make me look evil 😈 @CuddleDuncan knows me well and knows all my pros well she can ask him who i am I did it accidently and she's trying to twisting making lots lies and make me look bad
@Sheena123 So agree!
"Honestly, there are too many red flags with him that I choose to ignore the language barrier. He knows not to touch someone inappropriately and yet he gets mad at the pro for removing his hand. He’s held pros pretty well against their will. He’s admitted to anger issues and threatening to sue the site. He laughs or shrugs off any issues women bring up about being harmed or put in horrible situations. Amongst so many other times he’s been inappropriate, I really don’t care if he’s now and again tried to be good."
Essentially what I've said and have been saying too. I basically sent it recently as a report as well. I DON'T buy the "my English bad, so deal with it" attitude. There are people I help with their English, ocassionally they use the wrong word or there is a tad bit cultural difference that might cause a little conflict, when I bring an issue to their attention they apologize. Not just blame it on their bad English, or get angry at me for it. Or constantly keep making inflammatory comments.
Just cause your English is bad, shouldn't make you like above everyone else. Nor does it give you the right to threaten others to take them to court for getting upset and voicing their opposition to your constant inflammatory comments. Or trying to put you in time out or something.
I too am sick of it and tired of seeing so many seemingly get fooled by it. Poor language skills doesn't cause you to grab... I mean as he later put it "hold" on to someone who wants to leave, etc. Poor language skills doesn't cause you to put your hands where they aren't wanted, then get mad at the person for getting upset and taking reasonable action against it. Nor does it cause you to not apologize or express remorse in how you talk about it and recognize you are the one at fault.
It comes off to me like "Oh I came to your home, accidently broke your expensive art glass that your dead grandma gave you? Opss, I'm just clumsy 🤣. Wait you're upset? And told me to get out of your home?! 😡 But I forgive you, cause you're nice."
"This last post is him having the audacity to be angry with a pro for removing his hand off of her chest. Remind me why he’s allowed to still be on this site?"
Wondering the same. Maybe cause him saying he told them he'd take them to court and claiming having sent a 100 emails to moderators. Harassment? Or playing the "poor English" card everytime he "messes up" without even having apologized for it as far as I've seen out here. Or maybe claims being depressed... to like tug at people's emotions or something or to evade the consequences of his actions. Just cause you're depressed or whatever doesn't give you the right to constantly behave like that and look at others like they are in the wrong for getting upset and voicing their oposition at what you say. Get professional mental help if you're depressed, it's your responsibility to take care of it. No one should have to be okay with your bad or highly questionable behavior or treat you any different for it.
Or maybe cause he says he hires pros a lot or spends a lot, which I find questionable and really hope and think the site isn't keeping him for that. I'm sure the good pros here and everyone else here for the right reasons wouldn't appreciate that.
"I don’t care about language barrier. He knows well enough not to touch inappropriately and he knows well enough about what women go through, so why are we still entertaining his posts and letting him constantly admit to harming or non consensually touching women??"
Right.
Ok @Ahmedali999 Now she knows where to check you out. But if you keep ranting about one person you could end up suspended or banned. Please let it go. You are valued and accepted here. Don’t let one person ruin that.
@FunCartel fair enough
Comment redacted. This is getting too close to being a personal attack. - Babichev
@UCpaaHVg6u0 - I’ve been thinking about that. The International Association for the Study of Pain (yes, there’s an international association that sets the standards for definitions, terminology, etc. regarding pain) defines pain as an unpleasant sensation. By that definition, tickling can be defined as pain IF the person finds it unpleasant. If they find it pleasant, then it’s not pain. (It still may be nociception if you want to get geeky about it.)
Wikipedia has a decent article about it.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tickling
I have a lot of respect for sheena, & I don’t discount her feelings & understand why she feels the way she does… with that said I don’t think ahmedali meant any wrong doing , I feel that if any wrong doing was ever committed he would have been reported … should there have been any reporting or any speaking out I would not support the behavior just like anybody else, but I genuinely think he’s one of the most respectable sweet members here with lots of amazing karmas … shout outs to fun cartel (I’m sure we’ll meet in the battle field again lol) but I’m really glad for you standing up for him.