How do we know if we have trauma ?

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  • edited June 2022

    @CuddleForDID It was a study in Ohio. The one that just started a little over 60 days ago is in its infancy and it has not been submitted to the FDA yet. It will get there eventually but it has to go through trials. It is nowhere near FDA or emergency approval. Almost every test you look at was done on mice. The UT test is the first one involving the US government directly and will actually use people.

    In short it’s not on the market because it hasn’t completed all the clinical trials to rise to the level of approval. So to say it is because of money is rubbish.

    https://www.liebertpub.com/doi/abs/10.1089/genedge.4.1.33?journalCode=genedge

    https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20220323005337/en/Vaxxas-Licenses-HexaPro-Spike-Glycoprotein-from-University-of-Texas-at-Austin-for-Use-on-its-Needle-Free-Vaccine-Patches

  • @Nature_Lover_ thanks! It's daily work, but reaps rewards many years later. Cheers! Yeah in cuddling and massages...sometimes the pain melts away.. just a little bit.

  • Lately I've been using a term I like to call "sacred scars". Powerful as it can be, painful as trauma can be, our experiences shape us. Both the good and sometimes especially the bad. Ideally it'd be wonderful if no human being ever had to go through rough times and hard emotions, but since these things are a part of life, the best we can do is focus on the good. Trauma is pain, but is also help. We learn off the things that hurt us, and on instinct, wisen to the traps that caught us in darkness in the first place. Whether our brains do the protecting for us or we choose to put up safe guards ourselves, we all find ways to help cope with the darkness.

    That's what makes this site in particular so beautiful. No trauma is too small to deserve healing. Everyone here is valid in their own way. All trauma is valid. YOU reading this are valid.

  • @Shake49 Good post

    It's heartening that there has not been anymore belittling of trauma or how each person perceives it.

  • @achetocuddle
    “It's heartening that there has not been anymore belittling of trauma or how each person perceives it.”

    100% agree. Thank you to the mods for dealing with the person who was repeatedly doing that.

  • edited June 2022

    @CuddleForDID - please provide links to the research. All you’re giving us is hearsay. I know from reading research and reading popular articles on the research that the latter almost always carry some inaccuracy because most of the people writing them are not experts in the field on which they are reporting. And in some cases the authors of the articles are pretty illiterate when it comes to science and research. Without a link to the source, you have no idea whether the information you’re reporting is accurate or not. At least give us the link to your source so we can evaluate it. Frankly, it sounds like alarmist nonsense.

    The tired old trope that scientists have a cure for X, Y, or Z but it’s being withheld from the public because it’s not profitable has never turned out to be supported with evidence. People forget that scientists and CEOs all get those same conditions - as well as their family members and loved ones - for which people claim they are withholding the cures. Aspirin is one of the cheapest drugs in the world and made a fortune for the Bayer family.

  • @Babichev I always love what you have to say. Your wisdom is very useful here. But the aspirin thing...Bayer made heroin, aniline dye, and a lot of explosives during the wars of the 20th century. So they took an extract from willow trees and acetylated it, and other companies did the same thing elsewhere. That doesn't negate your point about the fallacy you were describing.

  • edited June 2022

    "@CuddleForDID - please provide links to the research. All you’re giving us is hearsay. I know from reading research and reading popular articles on the research that the latter almost always carry some inaccuracy because most of the people writing them are not experts in the field on which they are reporting. And in some cases the authors of the articles are pretty illiterate when it comes to science and research. Without a link to the source, you have no idea whether the information you’re reporting is accurate or not. At least give us the link to your source so we can evaluate it. Frankly, it sounds like alarmist nonsense.

    The tired old trope that scientists have a cure for X, Y, or Z but it’s being withheld from the public because it’s not profitable has never turned out to be supported with evidence. People forget that scientists and CEOs all get those same conditions - as well as their family members and loved ones - for which people claim they are withholding the cures. Aspirin is one of the cheapest drugs in the world and made a fortune for the Bayer family."

    There are actually MULTIPLE sources you could easily find looking up painless or need-free vaccinations. I could be here all day posting hundreds of links to different sources but I don't have the time or energy for that.

    I will say in some cases you're right. Something like Cancer for instance, if there was a cure it would be on the market. Though I recently heard they've actually discovered a cure that however is in fact still in the beginning stages of clinical trials and may not be available yet. It was so far only tested on mice and they just got approved for human trials this month. No problem there because that actually is way more recent and also it's something that has no other options already available. I mean depending on the type of cancer they can treat it and slow down the spread but our existing treatments can't actually reverse the effects. Treating something and curing it are two different things. And I don't actually know the source for that cancer cure trial cause I heard it from someone else so I have no idea where she even got that information from. Take it with a grain of salt. I tried to find where she might have been reading off of and all I could find were treatment options not actual cures so not entirely sure she understands the difference.

    Anyway, when we're talking about things that already exist and have existed for YEARS, such as vaccinations, they do in fact tend to hide cheaper safer alternatives. I've found several articles online talking about alternatives to the injection having existed since the early 80's. They were first in development back in the 60's and 70's. I was born in the 80's, so all of my life painless injections have been available on the market and doctors just never told anyone it was an option.

    There are other examples where more painless alternatives are available but if you don't know about them and specifically ask for it, most doctors will never even tell you about it. I always advise people to do their own research rather than just blindly accepting whatever your doctor tells you.

    And here's the thing... they might not even be doing it intentionally. In some cases it's a matter of what they're taught was already outdated when they graduated med school. And I've talked to someone who just finished her psychology degree in 2019 but didn't know what Dissociative Identity Disorder was. When I said Multiple Personality Disorder then she knew what I was talking about and it hasn't been called that since the 90's that's how I can tell she learned from outdated text books. Even the therapist who diagnosed me still called it Multiple Personality Disorder and that was in 2003, it was already an outdated term then but still persists today.

    It's not alarmist nonesense to say that doctors care more about money than their patients when painless options have been available for almost 40 years and they still push injections over anything else. And it is in fact about money because when you look at the prices injections are the most expensive way to receive a vaccination plus some of the painless options you don't even need to make an appointment for, you could just pick up at a drug store. The thing is doctors also get money just for seeing you even if they don't do anything. Every time you get checked out and the doctor says your fine go home that's still another bill they can charge you or your insurance. So having an over the counter vaccination you could take yourself at home without an appointment to see your doctor kind of eliminates that whole process.

    You mentioned the fact that Doctors and their families would also need this medication and you're right but guess what? They don't take the painful expensive stuff they push on their patients, they take the cheaper painless opinions they know are available. That is if they know like I said earlier not all of them are doing this intentionally some of them really believe they are giving the best health care possible and especially smaller clinics they don't always have access to the best highly trained staff available and may just not know these options exist.

    Even outside of the medical field one of the big problems with American education is text books at some schools being more than 30 years out of date. You might not think that's a big problem because some subjects don't really change that much but think about how much technology and science has advanced in the last 30 years. We've got phones we can carry around in our pockets, flat screens, almost everyone has a computer now days and we've actually had the ability to do school from home over the Internet since about 1997 but it only really became popular during the pandemic. Most people at the time thought the internet was just a fad that wouldn't last and doing school online didn't seem viable. I had an ex who was doing collage courses online about 14 years ago before the Pandemic really made it popular. And for some reason even though the pandemic kind of proved that, for most people, online school is a viable option, we still ended up reopening physical schools.

    I say most people because my son has Cerebral Palsy and his school actually has tech that we don't have available at home. He can use computers at school cause they have this thing that tracks his eye movement and controls the courser that way. He doesn't use a mouse or a touch pad. There's some other stuff as well that I don't even fully understand myself so it's actually better for him to actually be physically in school. His physical therapy is done through the school as well so that's another reason why online schooling isn't really viable for him but for most other kids who don't have special needs, online school is actually better. Obviously we can't get rid of physical schools entirely but online schooling I think should still be an option and not just for the necessity of a Pandemic.

    This forum does not allow the posting of misinformation and/or conspiracy theories. This is a warning. If you do it again your forum privileges will be temporarily suspended. If you continue, your forum privileges will be suspended permanently. Please keep this in mind going forward. - Babichev

  • Am in a workshop right now and listening to a presenter from VA talking about combat trauma. Interesting to learn how some really innocuous things can be triggering. Like Iraq veterans can be triggered by the heat whereas Vietnam and Korean veterans can be triggered by the cold. Also certain smells and sounds that are specific to their combat surroundings. Our brains are such a complex onion to peel for sure.

  • @pmvines For sure, scent can be a very strong trigger, both in the PTSD kind of way, and for pleasant memories, as well. As I drove to Colorado yesterday, the Russian Olive trees were so strong, I could smell them through my car while driving on the highway for about ten minutes. Definitely brought back childhood memories. 😊

    ~ Sunset Snuggles

  • @Shake49 So beautifully Said! I really love your compassionate and understanding tone regarding validating everyone. Especially within a community based on cuddles and connection which are critical for our health and well being as we continually welcome members who may be facing touch deprivation, isolation, ptsd and the list goes on. The term sacred scars really resonated and I think that it speaks to the possibilities for powerful and healing reframing for those personally impacted by trauma. I don’t know if I said this before but I love the term post traumatic growth.

  • edited June 2022

    @CuddleForDID - telling someone to go look it up themselves when they’ve asked for evidence or your sources is a sure sign that someone has no idea what they are talking about and does not have good sources. Those who do have good, credible evidence are always quite happy to provide it. You don’t need hundreds of sources, one or two salient links would be sufficient.

    As for the other allegations you’re making - show me the evidence.

  • [Deleted User]simsaddict (deleted user)

    @Shake49 so well worded!

    I started the book “The Body keeps the Score” which is one of THE contributing factors as to why I am able to express and recognize my triggers before having a reactive reaction. And it’s absolutely phenomenal!
    I highly recommend it to anyone going through sexual assault trauma or violence trauma, specifically. It breaks down the different ways humans respond to situations and through their studies of PTSD, they came to realize that Trauma is in itself an entirely separate thing to approach.
    Absolutely cannot recommend it enough.
    I give CC credit for healing my trauma but it’s been triggered just the same with people that push boundaries. Recognizing warning signs, and being able to articulate has helped me tremendously.

    Taking a break from cuddling has also allowed me the freedom to work on art and resented myself.

    This is just my own opinion, so don’t condemn me here….
    But if there were resources shared on here about the therapy based side of things, would that encourage people to attend a webinar?
    Something in my like of work does & it helps all across the board^^^.

  • [Deleted User]Saysoh (deleted user)
    edited June 2022

    @simsaddict

    I love this f***ing book! I've gifted it to many people simple because of chapter 20.

    Removed f-bomb [-Sid]

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