cylee1180 it seems you don't know the rules f this site ready well. Showing cleavage is against the rules f this site and she is showing a lot of breasts on these pictures.
@Mama55mia I believe if you are a woman, one is bound to get in the photo.
@Mama55mia - Should she dress up as a nun? I see women with some cleavage showing in the work place. It's somethings not avoidable.
Showing cleavage is against the rules of the site? I find that hard to believe. The idea that women have to hide their body or be responsible for sexual aggression is very old fashioned and generally considered a sexist mentality.
I’m not saying that dressing more conservatively might not serve you better, but no one should tell anyone how to dress. This isn’t 1970. Dress however you feel most comfortable as a person and put the fault on the person being aggressive.
Men just needs to start thinking with their brains and not with their dicks.
Mike403 That wud be a great thing if it really happens You all three are thinking with your other head right now
of course, many guys here would defend a woman with pictures like that Those pictures are not appropriate for this site and you know it
@Mama55mia photos of an overtly sexual nature are not permitted on the site. Semi-nudity is not permitted either, except where context is appropriate.
Cleavage itself is not against the rules. As @cylee1180 and @Mike403 observe, it's hard to avoid outside a convent.
Cleavage clearly being used in an erotic way is against the rules.
This is a British website used all over the world by all adult age groups and a small range of cultures. Almost nobody is going to find that all of the site's conventions suit them perfectly.
@dave31415 exactly.
@Mama55mia - If you think something is inappropriate, flag it and the mods will have the final say.
Women shouldn't be shamed for having boobs. Or for having outfits that show natural curves to body . Women cannot be held responsible for how men choose to behave when they are communicating or with them simply based off their pics or what they wear .
This being said , and I realize not everyone will agree and that's fine , there are some folks on here who do deliberately dress provocatively and show just enough of their parts to scrape within the TOS. They do this deliberately to attract more attention in hopes of gaining more bookings (though it's not only pros obviously who do this). Simply acknowledging that this does indeed happen and not always a minor miscalculation or accident on the part of the person posting their pics does not at all amount to victim shaming, specifically when it is a deliberate act of the one listing the pics . This still is zero excuse for men to act like animals and assume they are offering sexual services , and it is still zero excuse to assume that they would be ok with you attempting to make advances towards them . Sometimes applying a little common sense instead of over analyzing, or being scared shitless of being accused of something you arent for simply stating the obvious, can go a long way .
And yes, unfortunately, there are some guys here who only want sex and offer more money to some pros to accept to participate in fetish stuff There are some who ask the pros if they would accept them to dress as a woman and have sex, there are others into feet related to fetish, and others who ask the ladies with big breasts if they would accept adult breastfeeding
There is inadvertent and inevitable cleavage and there is cleavage used for marketing. 100% different things. One is acceptable here. The other is not.
I'm always fascinated when I see someone who just joined site with so much seemingly intimate knowledge and bones to pick . Hmmmm
CuddeDuncan I know some professionals who have posted pictures like that and Marc has asked them to remove the pictures because other people have reported them. I am positive some guys here would think with their brains as Mike403 said but there are many others who don't Women's body is the most amazing and beautiful creation but not everyone thinks like that with respect and since some cuddlers have been asked to removed the cleavage pictures and they removed them I think the rules are for everyone
@Mama55mia - Just flag them and let the mods look into it. What you're doing is more like bullying. There is no reason to attack any member in the forum. The flag/report buttons are there for a reason.
Perhaps we can find some common ground in agreeing these are complex human issues, ones society has been grappling with for a long time.
I want to discourage any finger pointing and encourage sharing of how these issues make us feel, whether that's emotionally, morally, rationally, or any other way you experience these topics.
@Mama55mia you joined the site this month and you have no Friends and no Karma.
You made your first post just over an hour ago. Your seven posts so far all allude to sex in some way.
Are you sure you're on the right site for you?
@CuddleDuncan - ...and he thinks he's an expert already. Maybe he's a previously banned member who created a new account to troll.
Their profile says “zero drama and emphatic person.”
I figure when you enter a new scene, the thing to do is to pay attention to the culture there before you start telling people where it’s at.
And if it’s a returned banned member, they usually get outed in the end, it’s just a matter of time.
I am not bullying anyone. I am giving my opinion about what I know about some cuddlers here and also asking if the rules are made for everyone. And I think before someone comments on this discussion session about something related to sex and that person is doing it, please don't participate in the discussion
If you are aware of anyone on the site who is violating the terms of service, the appropriate thing to do is to report it, not to make vague allegations in a discussion. You are making thinly veiled personal attacks against named and unnamed persons. Stop it or you will be put in time out. - Babichev
@Mamma55mia You've been on the site a month and already you've spotted multiple pros violating TOS? That takes talent.
@Mama55mia & @ubergigglefritz there's always going to be someone who thinks what you are wearing is provocative. This conversation needs to be over. I was over it in 8th grade, flat as a pancake, when I wore spaghetti straps to school. I was over it when leggings were considered the devil's pants. I'm over it now as I watch women continue to "slut shame" other women's attire. I don't care if someone is naked. It's still no excuse for someone assaulting them or trying to take advantage. Yes I have actually screamed at men who were cat calling a mentally ill woman walking around naked. Obvi, on here there is no nudity, but I have no more patience for people measuring cleavage trying to figure out if they are asking for it. Lets move along. The guys are being great and I'm impressed ❤
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@MxSmith You occasionally might have been a little bit ahead of the times, but for the most part, I couldn't agree more.
@Mama55mia You have stated that this site has a rule prohibiting showing cleavage. I'm sorry, but I haven't been able to find it. could you possibly quote it for me? The nearest that I could find is a rule that states " Your photos cannot be suggestive whatsoever, even to a mild degree (e.g. focus on the cleavage). It seams clear to me that banning photos that focus on cleavage, is entirely different from prohibiting photos that show any cleavage at all.
I don't know if you can tell the difference, but I sure can.
I'm sorry, but I'm not getting off on CC photos. I just don't like body or slut shaming.
Me thinks @Mama55mia is a formerly banned member with a bone to pick
@GreatHornedOwl : I left off the Don't originally. Of course they don't deserve the same type of attention. You must have been responding as I was editing
@GreatHornedOwl "I don't know if you can tell the difference, but I sure can."
That's all I was talking about. No slut shaming here. I believe sex work should be legalized. I have no problems with women offering other services (elsewhere, not here). I have no problem with men seeking other services (elsewhere). No problem with visible cleavage (here, elsewhere, pro, enthusiast). Men should never assault women. No excuses.
What I acknowledge is that, for as long as sex work is illegal, if you as a PROFESSIONAL are FOCUSING on your cleavage and your body, rather than your face and your personality, you ARE giving the impression that's what you're offering. There will always be people who still see what they want to see, no matter what is shown, but there are lines that can be crossed where 90% of people will see it as sexual.
Women can do whatever they want. They can also choose any work they wish to offer. When you choose a service to provide, that comes with the acknowledgement that how you market yourself impacts how people perceive you. That can be with clothes, hair, words, body language, facial expressions, everything. It's just as true for a dentist as it is for a cuddler. When you choose work, and you choose a marketing strategy, that affects your results.
There is no shame. It's a part of choosing to be a cuddler. How you present yourself impacts how people perceive you. It's the same reason I could never succeed in the corporate world. I hate and never wore professional attire. I would never have climbed the corporate ladder wearing the clothes I did in the office. People who wanted to do so, dressed for the part. Myself, I didn't care so I continued to do me. Doesn't change the fact that it affected people's perception of me in the office.
Again, seriously, no shame. Have a great day. 🤗
@ubergigglefritz I couldn't agree more. There are quite a few thing that would actually provide a benefit to society it they were to be legalized. Unfortunately, that would offend some peoples misplaced sense of morals.
The first of those is sex work. Does anybody think that it's a coincidence that according to the latest figures that I could find, that Amsterdam (where sex work is legal) has a rape of 7 per 100,000 population, while the U.S. Department of Justice's Bureau of Justice Statistics, from 1995 to 2010, the estimated rate was 210 per 100,000 population. While it's impossible to prove that there's a cause and effect , it certainly looks like legalizing sex work would be beneficial. What about legalizing drugs? There doesn't appear to be any deleterious effect of legalizing cannabis in those states that have legalized it. However, I'm talking about legalizing heroin, cocaine, and other hard drugs. Imagine that anybody could register as an addict, and then go to a government operated or licensed drug facility and get their favorite drug absolutely free, but had to consume it on the premises. It would be a big hit on organized crime. You can't sell something that somebody else giving it away. Once organized crime stopped selling it, it would disappear from the streets, which would result in very few newly addicted people. Since a large percentage of small scale crime stems from the need for addicts to support their habit, there would be an immediate decrease in the overall crime rate.
Is there a down side to making these two things legal? I see only one. They would both offend the moral sensibilities of too many short sighted people.
@ubergigglefritz
It's the same reason I could never succeed in the corporate world. I hate and never wore professional attire. I would never have climbed the corporate ladder wearing the clothes I did in the office. People who wanted to do so, dressed for the part. Myself, I didn't care so I continued to do me.
With apologies for being off topic, there is a huge difference between areas of the country on this one. If you dress casually at the office you'd be just fine in west coast cities like Seattle or San Francisco, whereas in uptight New England you probably would be perceived as someone not serious about a career. It doesn't stop power hungry behavior in either place though.