Who decides what threads get buried and for what reasons?

edited September 2024 in General

Some get buried even though they seem completely harmless while others that are more controversial, more off cuddle related topic, and more purposely pointless do not . Seems a bit arbitrary and bias at times.

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  • Good question, i also some could have some good discussion that might help and build better understanding for people. Granted i have little faith they won't devolve int the same old bitterness but i think they need a shot.

  • I think good discussions without name calling, tagging in anger, taking everything so personally - can actually be a good learning opportunity from some of the threads.
    Some are posted asking for sincere help and then many of the regulars here turn it into a comedy. to draw attention to themselves. That just shows lack of ability for deeper thinking and disrespect sometimes.

    This forum can be an opportunity for people to learn a completely different POV, why not be open to that?
    Being more pragmatic & mature in comments could help save some of the “questionable” threads, keep them open and active.

  • @g_w_t_w what you describe is truly the reason I've been here so long. The cuddling is just something that may come up for me, just can't find it. But over the last couple year or so it's become close to none valued to me.

  • @pmvines
    The mods and admin have the ability to set a thread to not move to the top, even when it is posted on, so that it gets pushed down and forgotten about. It's a step below locking a thread, and two steps below making a thread invisible to the general users.

    In these cases, if I care about the topic, since it obviously won't show at the top of the page when posted on, I just Favorite it by clicking the star beside the thread. Within settings, you can choose to be notified by pop-up or e-mail, when a Favorited thread is posted on.

    It's a work-around for an action I usually find annoying or unfounded. If the posts within were really a problem, the individual posts should be edited and the users timed out, if necessary. If the thread as a whole were really a problem, it would be made invisible. So these threads don't usually have anything to do with rule-breaking, they just seem unwanted by the invisible person making the decision.

    @OhioMike
    I miss how @Sideon would always respond, say what action he took, and sign his name on post edits, taking responsibility for his actions. That accountability is becoming more and more rare.

    ~ Sunset Snuggles

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  • I miss Sideon too

  • The mods decide on locking, editing, burying or removing entirely.
    Looks to me like they do it arbitrarily, because I have seen a mod post on one (let's say, "emotionally"), then close almost immediately and then remove it.
    Biased? Probably.

  • edited September 2024

    I actually think the site would be more harmonious if we could all do this.

    Like… remember that user who was triggered by the thread about Mother’s Day. Why not let him bury the thread (just for himself)? It wouldn’t infringe on anybody’s rights to discuss anything. He just wouldn’t have to see it for two straight weeks every May.

    Or remember that new guy who was spamming the forum with harmless but inane questions? And remember how one seasoned enthusiast sort of lost his mind over it? What would be the harm in letting us hide threads from ourselves, that we don’t want to see or engage with?

    I’d mute any thread about the NFL (or boxing) on sight, as an act of self care. And I would have probably buried the “dark humor” thread after seeing that most people here were not bothered by them. Instead I flagged joke after joke because, I personally found them offensive.

    Can a tech-savvy user tell me if this is a difficult ask, in terms of coding?

    Thanks!

    🙈🙉🙊

  • There are a few threads that are active right now, that for different reasons bother me - like why did someone think it was a good idea to post it but - to each his own.
    I highly recommend using selective vision and don’t focus on it and ignore, don’t read the words.
    I don’t need to feel annoyed or bothered by what some stranger on the internet decides to talk about.
    Seriously, move on when it comes to triggering topics

  • I mentioned this in a message to someone on this thread, but I think you all deserve to hear it. As a moderator, am I biased? Most likely, considering my species often is, usually without being aware of it. Do I want to be biased? Not in a million years.

    I cannot make the assumption that people here know me well enough to know that there is little that I value more than my own growth.

    If you have concerns about the way I'm handling something, please send me a message: I'd value an opportunity to hear your perspective, and if you're interested, offer mine.

    While moderators desire to uphold site policy, we also recognize that we are also members of the community that we are serving.

    As such, your voice is valued by me.

  • @MonkeyNeedsAHug yes, it's complicated. One line could cause issues with other functions and coding, so it needs to be tested and re-tested.
    (I have read that the person who does site maintenance/coding here isn't paid.)

  • Dear Generation Bubblewrap,
    While I agree that there's no place for name-calling, threatening language, or TOS rule breaking on this site, please try ignoring threads or comments that upset you rather than flagging them.

    After all, there are mature adult Users here who can handle "controversial" topics, even if you cannot.

    Thank you.

  • I'm curious about the suggestion that's been made here. Since the code exists to select a post as a favorite and have the site take action based on that, I'm wondering if the same selection mechanism could be used to select a new classification like "least favorite thread" and assign a different behavior to threads with that classification.

    @mark

  • edited September 2024

    🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 @TxTom
    You explained my thoughts exactly.

    Personally I’d prefer everything be left up. We’re not here to manage anyone else’s feelings. Unless of course it’s against TOS

  • edited September 2024

    @JoyfulHeart
    I got your message and I do appreciate your response thank you for that .

    I respect what the mods do and realize it's all voluntary and that it's impossible to not let your own feelings about something bleed over into moderating the forums . I appreciate it and it's often thankless, and I have no personal beef with you or the mods. I will say that at times it seems like the mods are operating as the feelings police instead of using rationale. Just because someone gets offended or has a complaint doesn't mean that It needs to be acted on, and that's the appearance that is given at times. Like a peace at all costs approach.

    That being said, thank you to the mods for what you do. I would not want to nor believe that I could be a mod, so I won't pretend to know exactly how you operate or how you should be doing it because there is no telling how I would do if in the same shoes.

  • [Deleted User]gem7 (deleted user)

    @TxTom Very well stated. It really is that simple.

  • Yes I have to echo what @pmvines says and I don’t want to ever be ungrateful for the Mods taking on the responsibility they do. It’s got to be riding the fence so often.
    You all make the decisions, we just chime in with our opinions. Thanks as always.

  • @TxTom
    I feel slightly offended.
    How can I bury this thread?

  • @pmvines I agree that we don't need the feelings police. I won't say what percentage of flags get dismissed, but it's not small.

    Also, if I have strong feelings on a topic, I try to leave that decision to other moderators.

  • @JoyfulHeart
    Thank you (and the other mods) for your work on this site. I don’t agree with every decision the mods make, just as others would not agree with every decision I would make if I were in your shoes (and I have no desire to even try those shoes on).

    Anyway, thank you for the time, thought and effort you put into this community. 👍

  • edited September 2024

    Dear Generation Bubblewrap,
    While I agree that there's no place for name-calling

    No one recognized the hypocrisy in those words above? Name calling a generation then preaching there’s no place for name-calling? 🤣🤣🤣

  • [Deleted User]WriterGF (deleted user)

    @TheFunCartel Yes, and always interesting when they run into Generation Cactus.

  • No one recognized the hypocrisy in those words above?

    There's no hypocrisy. "Generation Bubblewrap" is a description of a segment of the population (i.e., Boomers, Gen Z, Gen X, etc.), not anyone in particular.

    It was a generalization, similar to this statement of yours regarding "old farts":

    It will eventually change as the old farts die off and the younger, more empathetic generations take their place...

    The only difference is, I'm not eagerly awaiting the death of anyone.

    By name-calling, which was obvious to others on this thread, I was referencing instances when individuals are called out for being trolls, -ists, -phobes, and other names, as your side is prone to do.

  • I don't understand it either. I made a post about child slavery and murder when it came up about the chocolate industry and that did not get deleted.

    I made a post about child murder and kidnapping being done by ruZZian and that was no good, apparently because it's "political". I don't understand how one is and one isn't.

    They're both the same thing, maybe the difference is one is about companies and the other is about countries? It's still slavery and murder being done by people though. I don't get it.

  • edited September 2024

    Segment of the population or not it was name-calling and you know it no matter how much sophistry you apply to it. As far as old farts, I am an old fart and I was applying that (to provide context) to some of the misogynistic habits in our systems and beliefs that many older guys try and excuse. My apologies if you were offended. I should have just said old dudes. I am not going to excuse it or explain it away as you are prone to do.

    as your side is prone to do.

    And there are sides? I don’t think this is a venue for sides. Everyone can be on the same side and still disagree.

  • I'm not offended by the term old farts. I don't get offended. Old farts is a perfectly acceptable term, in my opinion.

    But I wonder now if you were genuinely upset by the term Generation Bubblewrap, or were you "upset" only because it was I who used it?

  • [Deleted User]WriterGF (deleted user)

    That's an interesting theory. Saying something about a segment of the population does not equal saying something about the individuals who make up that segment? So if you said "All dogs are vicious," dog owners should not take exception because you weren't talking about any individual dogs?

    Does the same apply if someone is bashing a race or heritage? That's a segment of the overall population.

  • [Deleted User]MaverickLegend (deleted user)

  • Boys (aka: Old Men) please stop arguing and go to your rooms until you can figure out how to get along.

  • Karens. Too many Karens (of all genders).

  • There's no hypocrisy. "Generation Bubblewrap" is a description of a segment of the population (i.e., Boomers, Gen Z, Gen X, etc.), not anyone in particular.

    There are definitely some mental gymnastics involved in being able to say this seriously. Maybe try admitting that it was an insult and acknowledge that you messed up, instead of always having to be right no matter how much illogic you have to use. You'd probably be a decent person if you could do that. Or at least do what you usually do with anything that doesn't paint you in a perfect light, and ignore it.

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