@CharlieBear You know me and punctuating haha thanks for that
I've never felt like throwing up from reading this board, until now. 🤢
This thread exemplifies why it is so important to me to establish a friendship before ever meeting, and to only do Public cuddles unless I have become very close to someone.
@atomicbearhug @MajesticMango @Gwynne42 My heart goes out to each of you.
@atomicbearhug posted: "while he doesn’t want sex, he gets “annoyed and disappointed” when it doesn’t happen."
Forget the screaming red flag for platonic cuddling, this statement is flat-out terrifying...that kind of entitled reaction is probably going to lead to rape, eventually.
@Gwynne42 I would 100% call 911 if any asshole dared walk out of the bathroom naked, oh my God.
"Sexual assault is any unwanted sexual activity, including:
Sexual activity without physical contact, which includes things that may happen in person, online, or through texts, such as:
"Flashing" or exhibitionism (when someone shows you their genitals without asking you for permission)"
Apparently this is a misdemeanor - Private Indecency.
@MajesticMango You can still file a report on a Deleted account. The mods may link a duplicate account back to him in the future.
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The question that's been asked here many times, no need for an answer, but why do we think people believe this is ok here? This behavior in the context of dating isn't ok so how did it become ok here?
@BashfulLoner I immediately think of another - current - thread named Entitlement. (Word used in a different way but still…)
@g_w_t_w i don't even think entitlement gets us to where the things described here are, it does start with an E though.
Yes, I get it, but I was only thinking of how some very badly behaved men have felt entitled to use a woman’s body for their gratification. But before everybody freaks out, that’s a big generalization, I know, and most intellectually evolved men are not that way. I’ve been fortunate here. It’s many respectful great guys who I have had sessions with.
@Mare_Bear BEAUTIFULLY SAID. There are SO MANY online and irl spaces where he could go for that. He lives in Chicago and club 390 is INFAMOUS for that sort of thing. There’s a million strip clubs and dating apps and shady massage parlors he could take this energy to but he has to pollute the waters of the ONLY space for platonic intimacy. I actually suggested he go to club 390 and he said “it’s too far” (I’m much further) and that “it’s dirty” (SO IS YOUR REQUEST????)
@BashfulLoner @g_w_t_w Because the ideas of platonic cuddling in general combined with entitlement combined with women doing any form of touch while in a bedroom setting combined with desperate creepy dudes who somehow seemed to get through puberty without learning how to manage arousal combined with not knowing difference between platonic and sexual touch combined with emotional attachment issues combined with misogynistic views of women as sex objects combined with the belief that if they are giving money then it entitled them to carte blanche over a persons body...
Shall I keep going , because my thumbs are getting tired
@pmvines yeah i understand that dynamic. I think what i was alluding to is something that has been discussed before and we don't really need to rehash. But based on the examples listed in this thread the expectation was based in something from the past. I think that even in dating through tinder fellas wouldn't show up to the door wearing a condom.
Thank you so much for this!!! I personally feel so jaded already and have only been on a month. I don’t think people understand how much emotional energy cuddling takes, especially with a stranger. That’s what I am charging for. Just hanging in here at this point.
So glad to see you are nearby… now I know I’m not the only one keeping it legal near Chicago.
@NeverShi It was the emotional toll that made me step back from pro cuddling. Some of us invest a lot as Pros here. Caregiving can be exhausting. Some Clients are very emotionally needy and I am very empathetic, to the point where their problems would stay with me. I had to learn to turn it off.
If you are concerned that another member is not here for platonic reasons, file a report, rather than posting a picture here. If necessary, a picture can be included with the report. Forum rules prohibit calling out other site members in the forum in this way. Posting this here does not make it easier for moderators. -JoyfulHeart
@Larry007 i appreciate what you're trying to say, but all of them are dressed. Your impression of how they are dressed says something about you as well. They are covered and they may appear to you like they are sending some sort of message but they also are doing things people do everyday, only they are smiling for a camera. So when you see them do you just want to cuddle?
Larry, just because a woman is dressed a certain way, does NOT mean it is an invitation for consent to anything else. Not to be rude, but if that is your thought process, you should re-think how you view women, lest you make the ones in your life (not to mention, the women you meet off this site), uncomfortable in your presence. I'm sure if those users saw the context & insinuation you were posting their photos in this thread, as well, they'd feel EXTREMELY uncomfortable & objectified, so you should probably delete that post altogether.
None of them are even dressed inappropriately for the setting of the photo they're in.
Seriously! Be a gentleman.
@Larry007 It's pretty disgusting that you are asserting that when women dress a certain way or have curves that it means they want to have sex with their cuddle clients. Thats the same antiquated argument made to justify sexual assault. And to do that on a thread started by somebody as a reaction to the bad behavior she has experienced personally, and other women posting on here about their bad experiences with at least one post made about a textbook case of sexual assault no less. Your lack of self awareness is apparent and I hope that if you have a daughter that you don't think when they show skin that it means they are a slut who is just wanting it.
@Larry007 why are you collecting pictures of these women in the first place?
Well, I can’t help but agree with Larry. It’s blatant and something many of the same people above have complained about. Yes, I’m a feminist, and I show that I want to be taken seriously by my behavior, how I present myself and the respect I deserve. I don’t want to be looked at just because of my body. Ugh so tired of that. This site is for platonic cuddling, it happens to be obvious to me that those women are likely advertising something else. Defend women and the way they dress all day long but we all know what’s going on.
@g_w_t_w While I'm sure that there are those who share the same sentiment to one degree or another, which each to their own, I don't feel like this is the right thread for that given the subject matter and experienced being shared. I think it's in poor taste and kinda weird to post that plus all the pics on this thread. And I don't personally believe in slut shaming and to me that's what it appears to be. Which is interesting coming from someone who essentially demands that you allow him to make clothing requests, as is written in his profile...
@Larry007 probably just made it easier for the mods. I wonder how many of those account will be banned. @pmvines Yes, probably off topic from the original post. But I’m just reacting to the photos that Larry posted. I think that he shouldn’t have done it, but I have to agree with him. Comments go off topic all the time and now I’m apologizing if it’s upsetting to other people here. I just reacted, that’s all. Is flagging appropriate when someone goes off-topic? Feel free. I do believe that if you want to be respected and taken seriously here as a platonic Cuddler, well a picture is worth 1000 words
@Larry007
Do all of them just want to cuddle?
The better question is why are you saving and sharing strangers photos? Go touch some grass.
@g_w_t_w Again, none of them are dressed inappropriately for the setting they're in. They're all very nice photos. In fact, I have seen much more blatantly sexual photos scrolling through Instagram.
Even if they DID have sex appeal, that they wanted to showcase.... having natural sex appeal is a personality trait and a form of self-expression. It's never an invitation to something more.
Would you say the same about, say a man pro-cuddler, posting a shirtless photo by the lake after a day of swimming and fishing? Or on a surfboard? Well... I may think that is attractive, but I wouldn't make any assumptions about him being an escort using this platform for that purpose - I'd simply think "oh that's nice, that person is ___" and go about my day. 🤷♀️
Yes, it’s a possibility. Depends on the photo
@JessicaGirl in the next 50 years, you will add to your experience and knowledge, based on the experiences you will have. This may cause you to draw some conclusions that you haven’t had yet.
Go touch some grass.
Yes, pure Indica for him.
@Larry007 Forget these people. the real question is : Are you Gary Busey?
@g_w_t_w While we agree on the subject in general there are some issues here with the "OP" and his post besides what @pmvines already stated. first: looking at his own Karma trail, you can see some picture that are similar to the ones he posted in this thread, so he doesn't seem to mind and possibly that is exactly what he is looking for. especially considering he is stating in his profile that he may ask you to wear during a session what you wear in your pictures and if you refuse, then your picture is not appropriate. well, whether she does or does not agree to, is irrelevant in determining whether the picture is appropriate or not. it seems to be a clever way of screening potential cuddlers assuming that whoever agrees to cuddle him agrees with that condition. in addition, I recognized one of the pictures posted here by him. it is a pro in my area and the picture has been long gone from her profile which means that A: The picture was previously saved, not just now for the sake of posting it here B: It was already reported and removed meaning action already taken (unless she herself decided to remove it)
That all may be true, I haven’t even looked at his profile. Because it’s irrelevant to me. You could start a thread about his profile also, I guess right? I’m only agreeing with his opinion about the photos he shared, This is usually how I am on these threads. We all have an opinion, and we all tend to want to share it..
@g_w_t_w We are not arguing here when it comes to pictures. as stated earlier, I agree with you. you call it for what it is while whenever the subject comes up in a thread, others are posting either naive comments or agenda driven "opinions" while avoiding the core issue. I just thought it was funny that someone calls out publicly what appears they are actually looking for, that's all.
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Yes @Sooson I agree with you on many things and right now on what you say about some of the other comments. Definitely ironic if that’s the case with his profile. I reacted without considering his motivation. That’s actually a whole other topic.
While we agree on the subject in general there are some issues here with the "OP" and his post besides what
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@Sooson OP is a woman, I think you're getting OP and @Larry007 confused here. It's okay confusion happens, I just wanted to point that out is all.😊
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Years ago, I went to a bar that showcases live cover bands (I enjoy watching cover bands, especially rock cover bands 🤘😛) and I was dressed appropriately FULLY CLOTHED (my sister jokingly commented saying that I looked like I was going to a PTA meeting not to rock out, that's how FULLY CLOTHED I was that evening 😀) and all that jazz. There was this drunken idiot, who clearly doesn't "recognize" that NO MEANS NO, approaches me rubbing his erection against my hip as I was sitting at the bar on a stool. Dear God, his breathe was awful! 😞😖
I doubt Listerine, could help him. I think acid would have worked better in his case.😁
It wasn't until I shoved him away from me with a 4th and FINAL NO...That he went away, later on some guys (maybe bouncers or some sort of security team) threw him out. Because he was annoying and sexually propositioning other women there as well.
@JessicaGirl You are right it's NEVER AN INVITATION to something more, regardless of clothing you're wearing! Never!😑