What makes a “Good” person?

[Deleted User]CharlesGrove (deleted user)
edited February 2025 in General

Here are the rules of the game:

You are born into a body not of your making, at a time and place not of your choosing.

You have no control over your starting circumstances—your security, nourishment, education, family, gender, race, location, country, or religion.

You have curiosity, the ability to learn, and the capacity to adapt.

You have senses, instincts, and emotions that generally help you avoid physical threats—which, by the way, the world is full of.

You have an ego and a sense of competition. You want to survive, improve, thrive, and matter.

You have a sense of self, but also a need for community. You want what you want, but one of those wants is connection with others.

You are aware that your time is limited, precious, and irreplaceable. You don’t know how much time you have—only that it will end.

Now, Here’s the Game:

Your goal is to be remembered for as long as possible after your death. The more people and generations that remember you, the better.

Looking at history, Gilgamesh played a great Game. His name has endured for thousands of years.

Barry Nelson, though loved by his family and friends, played a comparatively small Game, and will likely only be remembered for another generation or two.

So, ask yourself: How do you want to be remembered? What actions will make that happen? And imagine that whatever plan you choose will succeed—your mark on the world will last.

Here’s How You Know If You’re a Good Person:

Did your plan help others, or did it require you to harm them?

It really is that simple.

If you are a good person, pursue that plan with everything you have.

If you consider yourself a “bad” person, that’s okay—it may not be your fault. You can get help, and you should. None of us choose the circumstances we’re born into. If you had a difficult start, you may simply be surviving the best way you know how, shaped by the hardships you’ve endured.

But now you know.

And if you choose not to seek help, then you are making the choice to remain a bad person.

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  • edited February 2025

    Part of my plan to help people involves hurting people who want to hurt my people.

    Reported, reviewed, and leaving intact with this caveat and stern warning, @IronLemon - threats of premeditated violence are not allowed. Not on any thread, not in any message. Just don't. I'm glad you clarified in this subsequent thread, but understand this has been flagged multiple times. Be very deliberate and mindful in what you post. Thanks. [-Sid]

  • [Deleted User]easylike (deleted user)

    IronLemon, vigilantism? I support it but for me, whether it's one more generation or forever, the first thing that comes to my mind is "loyalty"

  • @easylike Defending and protecting. But you're right, loyalty is a big part of that.

  • [Deleted User]MaverickLegend (deleted user)

    Acts of kindness and helpfulness. Not being vindictive. Today when I was in the emergency room I dropped my wallet outside and I was so distraught and this older lady saw how sad I was and she put her arm in mine and helped me look for it and asked the people outside if they saw a wallet. I will never forget how she helped me and I thought wow I’m so lucky this good person helped me out when I really needed help.

  • It takes a lot of wisdom and experience to become a good person. Intentions alone don't get there.

    You could for example be doing good by supporting someone only to find you are enabling them, and they become incapable of helping themselves.

    A lot of times we have to explore our own darkness that ends up opening us up to bad and/or harmful decisions.

    For me, a spiritual connection and guidance, as well as a desire to learn from my life has made me align with values I see as good.

  • @CharlesGrove
    That was very well-written, thank you for sharing with us.

    I disagree with one thing...

    You posted: "Your goal is to be remembered for as long as possible after your death. The more people and generations that remember you, the better."

    I think I recognized even as a kid and teenager, that I would not be remembered past my own generation. It has never bothered me. Being remembered is not my goal in life. To be honest, that sounds like a very ego-centric goal, even if the method of being memorable is by doing good things.

    All I have wanted out of life, since my very late teens and very early 20's, is to love and be loved.

    I gain incredible fulfillment, joy, and purpose from pouring love out onto others. And of course, being loved is something I imagine we all deeply crave.

    I do not want kids...I've known since I was a teenager that I didn't ever want to have kids. Not because I don't care about them, but because you can't protect them, no matter what you do. I will not bring an innocent baby into this sick, viscious world. Especially not "to take care of me in my old age", which many people have suggested I do it for.

    So my "legacy", my memory, will die with everyone I personally know, and that's perfectly okay. Most of those people don't even know me deeply enough for it to matter. But all of that is just fine, because I've been able to love some absolutely deserving people, and a few of them, miraculously, have loved me back.

    The Beatles were right...

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  • Now, Here’s the Game:

    Your goal is to be remembered for as long as possible after your death. The more people and generations that remember you, the better.

    I'd choose to be a Spartan king whose actions ultimately saved Greece.

    Did I win?

  • Not that I have the goal of wanting to be remembered, but if I was born into a life that guaranteed more wealth instead of this life of living paycheck to paycheck, I would want to create so many no kill shelters for all animals all over the world and hire help to take care of them at these shelters. And then I would make it my mission to empty every single pound, kill shelter, and depending on the conditions for the animals, clearing out reserves and pet stores too. Put them all up in a beautiful, lush space designed to give them the best, spoiled life whether they get adopted or not!

  • @IronLemon posted: "Part of my plan ... involves hurting people who want to hurt my people.
    Defending and protecting."

    It's only "defending" if they're actively causing harm...them "planning to" won't save you in court if you hurt them first. This seems like a violent worldview, and in my personal experience, dwelling on wanting to hurt people only hurt me and poisoned my mind. I finally found peace when I no longer let thoughts and anger churn about them in my head.

    @Sheena123
    100% with you!! My "unachievable 'cause money" dream 😛 is to open an animal rescue, rehab, and sanctuary for injured or unreleasable wildlife, relinquished or seized exotic pets, and abandoned, sick, or unadoptable pets, where they have a guaranteed home for life.

    🤎💚🦓🦊🦜🐇🫏🐕🐢🦇🐍🦉🐈‍⬛🐑🐠🦌🐄💚🤎

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  • edited February 2025

    Hmmm, this is the type of exercise that prevents most people from ever being happy because it dictates that life be lived by a goal or aim, rather than just living life. A goal of being remembered, or being rich, or being the smartest, or the funniest is enslavement because you are restricting living. Most of the happy people I know are none of those things. And the happy people I know generally ooze compassion, kindness and empathy.

  • @SunsetSnuggles They are harming us. And you have to be fierce against that kind of attack. This is not dwelling on hurting people. This is planning for the eventual necessity to use some form of violence to save people's lives.

    And also, not all harm is physical.

    I was perhaps a bit flip with my phrasing, though the sentiment remains true.

  • Perhaps a bit more clarification. If you had asked me a year ago if there was something I would die for, the answer would have been no. Today, it is yes.

  • @IronLemon I think hurting others is probably the worst thing you can do.

  • Part of my plan to help people involves hurting people who want to hurt my people.

    This doesn't help your tribe. It only reinforces the label that they are violent, if you use violence.

  • Your post is very large and I want to go to sleep so I will post a quick possible answer to the title of the thread, what makes a good person.

    A good person is someone who causes less harm to exist in the world than their parents. This can be through either not causing harm yourself or by preventing harm from being done.

  • [Deleted User]WriterGF (deleted user)

    @IronLemon Unfortunately, turning the other cheek in this society just gets the other cheek slapped. It is a sad fact that a lot of groups, big and small, now have to be prepared to defend themselves.

  • @jmdank No, the worst thing we can do is to be silent and docile. That will get a lot of people killed.

  • @IronLemon There is a difference between remaining silent and docile and advocating for violence, it blows my mind how people justify this.

  • @jmdank There's a difference between advocating for violence and being prepared for its necessity.

    Tell me, is there anyone you would die for? Would you use violence to protect them if you had to?

  • Being genuine

  • @IronLemon There is a difference between protecting someone and advocating for violence, I see this type of justification often from certain groups and disagree with it.

  • [Deleted User]CharlesGrove (deleted user)

    @jmdank If someone is threatening my family, and they have a history of oppressing and killing other families, I am perfectly ok with being proactive and aggressive in defending us.

    I don’t need to be stabbed in the heart or shoved into an oven before my violence is justified.

    Justifications are a task, and a luxury, for those who survive.

  • @CharlesGrove I'm not going to get into an argument about it, it's not allowed on this forum.

  • [Deleted User]WriterGF (deleted user)

    @jmdank I hear what you're saying. But when you are being told you do not exist, I think it's a special circumstance. I'm not saying go be a terrorist ... of course not ... but if they come to drag you out of your home, being a docile little lamb isn't going to help any.

  • @WriterGF I agree, if they come to drag you out of your home.

  • [Deleted User]CharlesGrove (deleted user)

    @WriterGF @jmdank The “being dragged from your home” phase has never stopped.

    It’s simply that you aren’t a minority, so it’s not your worry.

  • By the time they're physically dragging you from your home, it's already far too late. The dying started a long time ago.

  • There is a difference between protecting someone and advocating for violence, I see this type of justification often from certain groups and disagree with it.

    Agreed. There's a world of difference between defending against an immediate, active threat or danger - like using force against a home intruder - vs the comments on here about using violence against people who are only making threats, or against people who say they want to hurt others.

    I'm astonished that the people advocating for preemptive violence on this thread (and on other threads) are still allowed to be on the site.

  • True, sometimes.you have to go dark.

    Martial arts taught me how to fight to learn not to fight.

    To use only the amount of force necessary. No more, no less.

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