Movie remakes and sequels

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  • [Deleted User]easylike (deleted user)

    Not in favor of remakes at all, especially when WOKE enters the picture, no pun intended

  • Should we say anything?

  • It's all about execution.

    Sometimes the remake/sequel can be better than the original.

    Rare, because there is usually some complacency when doing the updated version. Guess they feel that the intellectual property alone is enough for the product to sell/be received well.

    Westworld the TV show was much better than Westworld the original movie

    Scarface was better than the original

    The fly was better than the original

    Works with music too, some covers are better than the original.

  • [Deleted User]easylike (deleted user)

    I would say modern day special effects will definitely enhance a movie especially from the science fiction or fantasy categories but sequels, the only one I can think of that I personally thought was better was Magnum Force following the original Dirty Harry. As far as remakes I thought Cape Fear and The Postman always rings twice beat the originals, to name a couple.

  • Terminator 2
    Godfather 2
    Aliens
    Xmen II
    The dark knight
    Captain America: the winter soldier
    Star trek II
    Empire strikes back
    xmen: days of future past
    back to the future 2

  • [Deleted User]easylike (deleted user)

    Personally, I thought the original Terminator was the best and also, outside of modern special effects, I would think the actor plays a BIG part in making the sequels a success.

  • edited April 2025

    Last night I rewatched Heat for the first time in about 20 years. Al Pacino, Robert DeNero, and Val Kilmer all delivered great performances. What really struck me though was the amount of dialog and character development. Pacino was a driven man following his life’s calling to catch criminals - but it came at a tremendous personal expense in the form of 3 failed marriages and a step daughter who attempts suicide (and he has to quickly leave the hospital waiting room because of a break in the big case he is working).

    The scene where Pacino and DeNero meet and talk is Hollywood at its absolute best. Two intelligent men at the top of their “professions” (one legal, one illegal). They slowly realize just how much they have in common even though they are polar opposites in some ways.

    I was also impressed by the LACK of special effects. In one scene, a man who was severely beaten (off camera) and dying begs his friend “don’t leave me like this”, clearly asking to be put out of his suffering. The camera cuts to outside of the house where you hear a gunshot and see an orange flash of light in a window. Perfection - there was no need for gratuitous blood and gore, everyone understood what just happened.

  • Not in favor of remakes at all, especially when WOKE enters the picture, no pun intended

    There's nothing wrong with characters and situations that reflect the real world, rather than whitewashed fantasy.

  • edited April 2025

    Not in favor of remakes at all, especially when WOKE enters the picture

    @easylike Woke. Lol🙄😄

    So you are in favor of SLEEP, when Kwai Chang Caine was being portrayed by David Carradine instead of Bruce Lee (which was the original plan by the way😏, but Hollywood is Hollywood🙄) on the 70s TV show Kung Fu? 😆

    Had Bruce Lee, been given that role (as it was intended, it would have made a WHOLE LOTTA SENSE to me😊), I would be watching Kung Fu reruns right now. 😁👍

    But NO, let's give it to David Carradine as he looks "so Asian" for the part. 😄

  • There's nothing wrong with characters and situations that reflect the real world, rather than whitewashed fantasy.

    👍

    @IronLemon That's true, but I will say Idris Elba made one hell of a Heimdall (in the Thor films ) though. 😁

    😄😄😄

  • [Deleted User]MaverickLegend (deleted user)


    Whatchu talking about @Katota david carradine was the man! I still watch kung fu reruns!

  • edited April 2025

    And then Jason Momoa SPLASHED in and made Aquaman so Hawaiian , sexy and muscly and definitely not a joke. 😍😆 😍😆😍😆

    For some reason Aquaman was seen as a lame joke of a superhero for years, and I never knew why...🤷🤷🤷

    But Jason changed that viewpoint for me. 😄👍

    🌊❤️🌊❤️🌊❤️

  • [Deleted User]MaverickLegend (deleted user)


    @Katota and don’t forget about Billy jack played by Tom Laughlin he was part Navaho a green beret and a hapkido master!

  • @MaverickLegend 😆😆😆

    It was THE HAT and "the left foot on the right side of yo face" that gave him "THE EDGE" of pulling off Navaho and Hapkido! 😄👍

  • Or was it "the right foot to the left side of yo face"? 🤔😆

  • edited April 2025

    @MaverickLegend Lol! My Mama does too, she RAVES about Kung Fu til this day. 😄😄😄

    Apparently, in that show Carradine was "the Man" to her and my aunts and uncles who were there watching it with her back then. 😁

    David Carradine was boring to me, even in Kill Bill he bored me. 😴😴
    So happy when Uma Thurman's character finally caught up to him and killed Bill. 😆👍

  • I've never watched Kung Fu, but I think I'll finally watch a few episodes. I'm reminded of it every time I watch Office Space.

    But I'm pretty sure that one dude is the same dude who refused to sell the Mogwai to Billy's dad.

    Off topic, but I'm catching the last half of the movie, Selena, on Telemundo. Unfortunately, we know how this ends.

    But that girl had quite a collection of sequined bras, let me tell you.

  • I've never watched Kung Fu, but I think I'll finally watch a few episodes. I'm reminded of it every time I watch Office Space.

    😁👍

    @TxTom Lol. I tried watching it with Mama (years ago when I was still living at home with her). I kept falling asleep on it. 😴😴😴

    Put on Enter The Dragon, and I am wide AWAKE! 👀😄👀😄👀😄

  • I wonder what a woke remake of Blazing Saddles would look like. Hard to see how they'd make it more woke than it already is.

  • The Beaver Trilogy. It's a documentary and two remakes about a guy named Groovin' Gary. The original is compelling enough by itself. The 1st remake stars Sean Penn, and the second one stars Crispin Glover. Crispin knocks it out of the park.

  • [Deleted User]WriterGF (deleted user)

    Hitchcock remade his own films. He directed both versions of The Man Who Knew Too Much.

  • @Katota bruce lee would've been terrible as kaine in kung fu. The idea was that he was half Asian. David carradine played that role well.

  • @Katota one of the worst white washings in history was John Wayne and a cast of hundreds of white people playing Genghis Kahn and Mongols:

    Karma came in the form of just about everyone dying within 20 years of the film including Wayne because they filmed on a nuclear testing site and most died from cancer.

  • [Deleted User]CharlesGrove (deleted user)

    I suspect that the ultimate whitewashing in mass media is Jesus, apparently the first white surfer born in the Levantine by some 2,000 years, give or take.

    Kind of surprising he is still depicted in a regionally appropriate robe, and not in a pair of blue jeans, a white T shirt, and a red baseball cap…

  • Karma came in the form of just about everyone dying within 20 years of the film including Wayne because they filmed on a nuclear testing site and most died from cancer.

    What's with this almost gleeful obsession with people dying... just because they filmed a movie in a way that doesn't meet your approval?

  • [Deleted User]easylike (deleted user)

    WOW! A can of worms was definitely opened here. So, replacing a Middle Eastern Jesus with a northern European man is "whitewashing" yes! A white actor playing a real life historical Asian figure like Ghengis Khan is "whitewashing" yes! Billy Jack's character was part American Indian, so that could've gone either way. Leave Richard Roundtree "Shaft" black and Clint Eastwood "Dirty Harry" white etc etc etc!

  • What's with this almost gleeful obsession with people dying... just because they filmed a movie in a way that doesn't meet your approval?

    What’s your obsession with putting words in people’s mouths because you don’t like what they said? It’s not an obsession. It is a fact. There are several documentaries on this movie. One is even called Fallout about the results of poor decisions by Wayne and his producers. But heaven forbid anyone say anything negative about a white person even if it is fact.

  • I kept falling asleep on it. 😴😴😴

    @Katota Yes Kung Fu could definitely be a snooze fest. A formulaic predictable show that you sat around for 57 minutes of the hour to see him give two chops and a kick that any amateur could have blocked in their sleep. Kind of like Keanu with bullets in The Matrix.

    Bruce Lee was the man and the only reason to watch The Green Hornet series.

  • If a studio wants their production to maintain historical accuracy---and I'm all for it---there are quite a few things that must be done, including the choice of actors that are cast.

    But if historical accuracies are not maintained, for whatever reason, I'm not going to say "it's karma" when someone associated with the production dies at a later date.

  • edited April 2025

    I'm not going to say "it's karma" when someone associated with the production dies at a later date.

    When you film next to a recently used nuclear site in the name of saving a few almighty dollars it is karma. When you get rid of Asian American actors during filming as they did when they recognized it was a harsh contrast to the Asian posers, this has nothing to do with whether it is historically accurate or not—it’s about ego. Wayne insisted on playing the role despite others telling him to the contrary.

    Where you read gleeful into any of this is your bias. I was stating a fact. Karma is not an emotion—in this case it was their reward for hubris. Karma is nothing more than the expression of the resulting actions to your decisions or actions be it good or bad.

    Gleeful obsession as you put it is the result of interpretive mental gymnastics in this case because you saw an opportunity to jump on me and insert your narrative.I never celebrated the deaths or wished for them. They happened because of their decisions and actions. It’s called karma.

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