Settling for platonic, or seeking it?

Soooo, I've been on CC for a while now, and I've had a lovely time here, but I have also noticed a division that is often unspoken that I'd like to get more perspectives on.

We all know that this site is all about platonic cuddling, and most - if not all - of us here agree that platonic cuddling comes with more than enough positives to make it worth pursuing, after all, that's draws so many us here.
We agree that physical touch is an important human need. That connection with others outside of a sexual context is also a basic need we all share. That the friendships that can arise from enthusiasts finding like-minded friends here can be deeply rewarding to find.
Post after post here praises the virtues and benefits of this kind of connection on both the pro side and among enthusiasts.

But I have noticed a bit of cognitive dissonance, both in the forums and in people's irl experiences, where the question of what people want vs what they can get is concerned.
You see it a lot in frustrated forum posts about mismatched expectations between cuddlers, but the place I see it most is when cuddlers - statistically male ones, but it can be anybody - agree to something platonic, but will jump at the chance to take things to a non platonic level if that's seen as an option by them.

**And that raises the question that I asked in the title, are you settling for a platonic connection, or seeking one? **

And to be clear, I'm not judging with this question either way.
Obviously follow the site rules 100%, don't seek non platonic connections here, or attempt to initiate them here, this definitely isn't the place for that AT ALL.
My question is aimed at prompting self reflection, and finding people's active desires instead of something more passive and unintentional.

I think a lot of us here are very (understandably) lonely.
The way our world is set up doesn't prioritize our emotional needs or even our basic nature as glorified pack/herd animals that biologically maintain the same reward system inside each of us that animals have, regardless of our individual personalities or lifestyles.
Socially speaking, most of us are deeply isolated in ways most humans in history haven't been, and for all the benefits of our modern times, it's made maintaining community with friends, family, neighbors etc. so much harder than it needs to be.
And as a result, we tend to lean much harder on romantic/sexual relationships in our lives, since that's a socially acceptable way to get the support, companionship, and basic, nonsexual physical touch we're missing in our lives.

But the dating world also suffers 🤷🏼 Dating apps are a mess, people often have clashes of priorities, there are fewer and fewer ways to meet and get to know eligible romantic partners in the wild naturally, the list goes on and on.
Even people in relationships often find the connection to be mismatched, but for various reasons it's agreed that having someone is better than having no one at all, so many give up on relational intimacy and look elsewhere to try and fill that gap.

Whatever the reason, a lot of us use platonic connections as a kind of fallback, and even though many do find deep fulfillment in de-centering romantic connections and seeking platonic friendships instead, so much so that they value it above romantic relationships, it often takes a long time to choose that path. Even when that's the path people choose it's still seen as a social failure by most compared to finding a partner or having a family, so there's a lot of stigma to deal with even when they're perfectly happy with that lifestyle.

So, which one are are you? A patch-er, filling the gaps to build a more satisfying whole, or a life-er, dedicated to a platonic relationship centered lifestyle?

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  • Patcher

  • I don't know which category I'd put myself in. At this point in my life platonic cuddling was exactly what I was looking for before I even knew about it. I've only known about cuddling for about 2 1/2 months now. TMI: I'm celibate & don't date so it's actually perfect for me.

  • It is certainly a surrogate for something more for a lot of folks on here, regardless of the purpose and intent of the site. Hence why so many folks stop cuddling once they have fallen into a relationship, or catch feelings, or they decide simply that it is not for them. I have had to say goodbye to quite a few of folks who I had made some amazing connections with due to this.

  • [Deleted User]AshleyGene (deleted user)

    I'm not sure which category I am either, but I absolutely see and agree with what you're saying. One of my first cuddles was with someone admittedly not close to their spouse. That's fine. Our chats were great, I felt comfortable. But this person tried to push every boundary, even describing how a previous pro supposedly decided to go with his very against the rules request 🙄. Shocking, I haven't been booked by that person again.

  • @jaison Valid!

    @MTex I'm in a similar boat myself. Intentional celibacy has definitely helped me learn a lot about myself and refocus my priorities 🤘🏻

    @pmvines Exactly. I'm all for people finding what makes them happy, but it can be rough to say goodbye at times when that priority isn't well understood beforehand. 🫂

    @AshleyGene Sadly I do know what that's like, and it really, really sucks to be put in that position, especially when keeping things fully platonic is something you both previously agreed upon.
    That comfort with pushing even basic boundaries and attempting manipulation to get their way is often not even something that's taken accountability for. My guess is it's rationalized as worth any risk to achieve the real goal, getting laid, and possibly in a long term way.
    I hope you reported him to the mods, that kind of behavior is both cruel and unacceptable! 🙏🏻

  • Patcher. Lots of time on the road, fairly solitary. Seeking platonic, it's ultra fulfilling. Feel like it 'charges the batteries'.

  • edited May 2025

    @Runawaycuddles

    Exactly , it does get hard for sure. I have almost gotten numb to it, like I expect it to eventually happen. But despite that, there are some folks who I feel are lifers and will always be in each other's lives one way or another. It is super helpful if you can relate and bond on a level that goes beyond just being cuddle friends. Lack of dimension can make it hard to be in touch once that singular shared interest or activity ends.

  • Got into it for patching. But as I do more platonic cuddling, I am realizing I get attached and then I want the friendships I expect from becoming attached. So now I am seeking cuddlers who will be friend matches as well because I don't want to be used as a patch and I don't want to use others as a body to feed off of. I want real friends who also are comfortable with this contact. I find that ENM men and women seem to fit this niche the best for me.

  • @Curvynaps I completely agree. I need more of a friend connection, not just a body or it feels cold and forced to me. Not much different than the forced/manipulated sex I've always experienced as I was just a body to them as well...

  • I think it is important to have a connection before the actual cuddle. I prefer a long term platonic relationship with a person that I can cuddle with repeatedly as opposed to a one time meet up.

  • edited May 2025

    Patcher. I’m in a uniquely strange situation when it comes to relationships. I’m male, spent the better part of my life taking care of an ex BF who I live with but have minimal to no physical contact with. (he’s 470 lbs now down from 550, schizophrenic, etc.)

    The last hugs I enjoyed before CC were in 2010. The void is many-fold but just being able to appreciate closeness to another life and warmth is more than enough to end a large source of depression.

  • I joined CC because I ended a toxic long-term relationship in June 2024 that did not include any physical contact for over 3 years (cuddling/platonic or sexual). I didn't want to get into another dating relationship right away (I was 52 at the time and really wanted to take time for myself - not to mention the idea of dating was horrifying lol), but heard of professional cuddling (through a contestant on a game show of all things lol) and thought that could provide the fulfillment of cuddling and human touch without getting into a dating or sexual relationship. And while there are not a lot of cuddlers in my area unfortunately (and I cannot seem to ever get an enthusiast to respond to what I believe are not-pushy-at-all messages), I have had some good experiences with pro cuddlers. I've even made a pretty good friend here. I've never gone into a cuddling booking thinking I could get more out of it, or that it could lead to dating. It's just been nice to meet some new people and enjoy cuddling and physical touch with them.

    All that being said, I'm not made of money, so there are limits to how much pro cuddling I can afford. And eventually I will likely want a romantic partner in my life again. When that happens, I guess I won't need CC anymore. But until that time, I'm enjoying what CC has to offer, and think it's an incredible service that truly helps people. It truly helped me.

    Not sure if at this point I'm really responding to the post or other comments lol, but just felt I wanted to share my thoughts on the general subject.

  • This is such a wonderfully insightful post. I started this work as neither truly a patcher or lifer, but simply someone who understood and still understands the deep need for physical connection in a platonic way. Especially, as we were coming out of pandemic and desperately starved for connection, affection, attention, and other human presence.
    I stopped doing this, for 3 years, very shortly after I started, less than a year. I came back to it, not only bc of a calling, but bc both myself and my therapist felt this could be a good experience for getting firm in boundaries and showing up for myself in ways I hadn’t felt able to before, and to grow and become more of the healing presence in people’s lives I deeply feel called to be. I’ve experienced some of the most profound growth over the past 8 months since returning. The deep emotional and intellectual intimacy I obtain from these platonic experiences and the bonus of helping people too, it’s been inexplicably rewarding and fulfilling.

  • Ariana I read your profile. And although I prefer male enthusiasts, your healing nature radiates!!!

  • Aww @Curvynaps thank you! 🥰🫶 I am a work in progress and every day is better than the last. Though I’m not in your area, if I venture that way I’d love to meet up for coffee or a cold press juice.

  • edited May 2025

    I think it depends, on the mood at the time

  • [Deleted User]LadyLapCat (deleted user)

    Love this topic. It sheds light on the very thing I’ve been struggling with here.

    I’m in no position to be in a romantic relationship at this time in my life. However, I’m an intuitive feeler (ENFP) and when I cuddle, I very naturally attach to the spirit of the person I’m with.

    Once attached, I want to keep cuddling with them, because we have that energy connection and it’s a huge recharge to batteries. But because there isn’t an expectation or even a desire of permanence or repeated time together, I go through withdrawal when I don’t get to see them as often as I want.

    I’m not sure if I’ll continue to meet my needs by cuddling, or if I’ll find another means to connect in a non-sexual way. Time will tell, and meanwhile, I’m grateful to the special souls who have shared and continue to share themselves with me.

  • @1sBitten I completely relate and agree. I also attach to people quickly. Not everyone of course but if it feels like there is a good connection then it’s easy for me to want to spend more time with them.

    And then real life is busy and it’s hard to do that. I definitely want to build connections with people and hopefully have just a small number of similarly minded folks who I feel like I can be friends with, or at least on the way to being friends.

    The idea of cuddling with someone just because they are a warm body, or being cuddled with by someone who viewed me that way is not appealing at all.

    I’m just not really interested in the cuddle version of a one night stand (not trying to compare this to romantic relationships or sex but I don’t think cuddling version of that idea has been coined yet).

  • @1sBitten Relatable!! My ideal cuddle connection would be closer to a best friend. The connection being platonic doesn't inherently limit emotional intimacy, but it can be tough to find the right fit for that.
    Even in a regularly scheduled cuddle connection, if the emotional intimacy isn't mutual it can be hard to feel connected and refreshed

  • edited May 2025

    @mauvefox

    "single snuggle session"?

    "transient hugs"?

    Surely the peanut gallery here can coin the right term for what you're talking about :-)

    edit

    "one-off cuddles"

    I'm trying to think of something clever as a pun of "Rum Tum Tugger" (from Cats).

  • @Jubal
    Thank you! just didn't have the bandwidth to be creative at all last night, glad to know folks got my back.
    "transient hugs" 🤣 i think that one might be my pick!

  • [Deleted User]MaverickLegend (deleted user)
    edited May 2025

    And that raises the question that I asked in the title, are you settling for a platonic connection, or seeking one?

    I would say neither. If I happen to get an unpaid cuddle that’s great. If I have to pay for one that’s ok too but I won’t equate cuddles with any sort of connection or friendship anymore.

    I’ve been a loner/hermit most of my life so it’s what I know and to believe or hope for anything more is unrealistic and damaging for me.

    A lot of people are two-faced saying one thing but then acting differently. I’ve always said what I mean and feel.

  • @mauvefox , I related to your description and am also not interested in the cuddling one nighter as an enthusiast. @Jubal I wii have to add this verbage to my profile

  • @Quiet_Cuddlez @Jubal
    yes! definitely adding the term transient cuddles to my profile.
    😁

  • edited May 2025

    @Jubal Transient cuddles is good!

    Personally I've always seen it a bit more like "cuddle appointments", because they feel so, "professional"? Like I'm an enthusiast, I don't do this as a job or even a side gig, but some people do seem to find the most comfort in cuddling by keeping it completely impersonal and "professional". Exchanging polite hellos, cuddle, usually in silence for exactly 60 minutes, then up, shake hands and wave bye with a "see you next week" just really isn't my style 🤷🏼

  • @Runawaycuddles thank you for starting this discussion, and in such an eloquent manner.
    I started looking at CC after a friend told me about professional cuddlers. I had no idea it was a thing.
    In response to the initial question - I would have to say I'm in both categories. I relish the connections I continue to make with others in this community. I often struggle with day to day connections socially irl.
    However, I am also filling the gaps due to the lost interest of my partner to be affectionate. The platonic nature of this community is truly what I has looked for and desire... that and the opportunity to meet great people and form friendships.

    It is difficult finding other true enthusiasts, and it is out of my scope to connect with pros regularly, but when I'm able, it has been a true blessing to experience. I honestly struggle with the concept of paying for cuddling, but I have met a few very professional pros and I can respect the amount of effort they put in to supporting their clients.

    I do have to agree, also, that there are those who seek to soil the integrity of this community, and it is for all of us to help police that so everyone has the opportunity to experience the safe space this was intended to be.

  • As a relationship anarchist in general, I do not prioritize romantic & sexual connections over platonic ones. I actively seek platonic connections in everyday life, not just in cuddling, because I truly value friendship in and of itself and I don't seek it as a cure-all or bandaid.

    Feeling lonely sucks, but learning how to meet one's own social-emotional needs is part of becoming a well-adjusted, emotionally mature human. It's no different than toddlers having to learn to self-soothe and self-regulate. The difficulty lies in that we often have emotionally immature and under equipped adults failing to teach these skills to the younglings in their care, and that as a society we view anyone above elementary school age as no longer needing social-emotional education.

    I know how difficult it is to work from a needs deficit, but learning to view platonic interactions as complete and not part of some intimacy escalator truly made a huge difference in how keenly I feel that deficit. It empowered me to meet my own needs, rather than relying on others to fulfill my unspoken expectations.

  • I’m someone who’s all about platonic cuddles, but I mean genuinely platonic: mutual, emotionally connected, non-transactional. For me, it’s about shared comfort, trust, and affection, not a service. That’s why I only cuddle with fellow enthusiasts, not professionals. I don’t really see “for pay” cuddles as truly platonic, simply because the emotional reciprocity and natural give-and-take feel different when money’s involved. I’m also motivated by close, intimate, platonic relationships in general. Cuddling, for me, is just one beautiful part of that larger picture.

  • I would say that I fit in neither category..I started doing this out of genuine curiosity.But I can see how the lines can get blurry.Dating apps are never ideal,the dating scene is nowhere near what it was 20-30 years ago.A lot of people are having to put in OT or get a 2nd job to make ends meet.So I can see where cuddling could fill a void that a lot of people have.There are a lot of lonely people on this site,the majority are more than likely male but I would guess that quite a few female pros are just as lonely as well.So this fills a void,unintended but it does.Personally I'm not dating anyone right now so having a session isn't a substitute for dating or having a girlfriend.,Cuddling is something I do ever now and then just as a change of pace.

  • @cuddlefaery This, 1000% this! You absolutely nailed it, and it's the fact that this concept is completely lost to this culture that's the most heartbreaking thing of all to me.

    We need to recognize platonic relationships for what they are, one of the many ways we can have available to us to emotionally self and co-regulate as a basic part of healthy human functioning.
    And in, in a sneaky sort of way, the binary choice of one way or another of meeting that need that I started and ended this post with is, as with all binaries in life, an illusion.

    In a society so heavily focused on the external, where the things outside ourselves are how we are taught to measure success, value, happiness, worthiness, and even morality, the most radical, countercultural thing you can do is self actualize - when based on how humans work at our most fundamental level, that is supposed to be the baseline.

    When we do not have this foundation, loneliness acts as a check engine light, but instead of learning how to resolve the issue internally with these tools as children from our caretakers, the focus becomes covering or smashing the lightbulb.
    When bandaid solutions is all we see in those around us as we grow, bandaid solutions become all we have, and we see the devastating consequences all around us. Without this, we all get swept up in an endless search for meaning, something to fill that void inside us, even the ultra wealthy, famous and powerful among us with access to the most expensive bandaid solutions find that none of them solve the problem.
    And it's a problem that transcends all divisions, gender, sex, age, race, financial status, education level, religious or spiritual beliefs, even power and control over others, without this core skill set, we all suffer, but it can be fixed!! 🤘🏻

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