@cuddlefaery
I don't know about that . My pickleball skills are pretty bad. Just sayin
@cuddlefaery Men wouldn’t pick a pretty dainty girl over a husky muscular man to fight wars with either… cuddling is intimate, there’s no way around that. Most men would not pick a 2/10 over a 10/10 who offers the exact same cuddle style and conversation. It’s shallow, but I think most in the thread prefer a gentle, safe reality check about men who have to pay for cuddles over lofty claims that all pro cuddlers should be chosen equally. To be honest, the pricing component eliminates an even playing field for cuddlers and pro cuddlers…
@durantpiano you just described a free market.
If a cuddler is "conventionally attractive", and identifies that this is a variable that men will look for, and she chooses to market that (as long as it is within the TOS of the site and pics are appropriate), and charge more for it, then that is her right to do so.
If people are not paying it then that is feedback for that cuddler that the market will not sustain that. This is basic economics and business.
@mauvefox exactly! Which is why I started off with… A higher price doesn’t mean extra services. A 10/10 woman is charging 2x and will always get it, offering the same basic cuddles and with the same basic conversation.
@durantpiano
But then you started complaining about it and implying that why wouldn't people think they were charging extras.
Who said there was an even playing field. You are entitled to take your ball and go home anytime you want. the post is about asking the folks doing something to stop doing something.
You have again described a free market. And I assure you, most of the people in this thread are well aware that most men choose their cuddlers based on their attractiveness.
Clients pick whoever they want for whatever reason. that's literally the market. What her price does not do is tell you anything about what she's willing to do in a session other than platonic cuddling.
@mauvefox I never complained, I explained the dynamics of you being a 10/10 or a 2/10… also I ended with this is how our entire world operates. So we’re basically repeating my comment. Nothing has changed in my statements of higher pricing doesn’t mean extra services. You agree, so yeah… 😅 UPDATE: I visited you bio and based on your reviews, I’d book a session with you, just from the reviews alone!!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥
@durantpiano you're right and i apologize, you didn't insinuate sex work. I got my users mixed up.
You just complained that pretty girls were too expensive, and gave someone feedback that they were pushing away mens' peace when that person did not ask for your feedback at all and was talking about how the culture of people selling sex on here has negatively impacted her.
either way, the OP is about asking people to stop selling sex. and yet you keep complaining about high prices on attractive faces.
@durantpiano you just demonstrated the problematic subculture on this site with that update. And I don't do "sessions". I'm an enthusiast and don't charge. the fire emojis are inappropriate.
I’m a professional touring musician… we sometimes have jam “sessions”… it is where musicians come together to hang out and jam together, hence the term “ session”. I didn’t say I’d pay you, I said have a cuddle session… You’re easily triggered & quick to jump to assumptions… this has been confirmed throughout our convo. First, You mixed me up with another person and then assumed I was complaining, now assuming a “session” meant paying someone? It’s ok, I sympathize with and for you. Your bio clearly isn’t a “Pro” profile - so I knew it was free, plus you don’t have a profile pic, which is 100% required for Pros… Please let’s be peaceful positive and loving. Don’t tag me in any replies, I understand reading and communicating for debate is your vibe. I’ve been courteous and even complimented you based on your Karmas… Nothing positive from you towards me in our exchange 👍😅
No.one in s going to attempt to sell products inappropriate services. That is against rules
It is because you did not say the magic words cuddlyfox42
@durantpiano Publicly using a numbering system to rate women seems very disrespectful and immature. I’m just wondering why you do that?
Troll post deleted. - BlueIris
It is somewhat interesting, not surprising, that people like the above poster (soon to be in some kind of correction I imagine) create a profile and then sit on it for a few months just to "unleash " their wrath on us.
Thank you @BlueIris for the super quick response!
Is this why I have to be so strong on my profile? Some random loser told me (who's married) that the reason I have issues is because I tell people platonic cuddles do not include poly or polygamy. He doesn't realize how aggressive open marriage men are trying to say their wives are ok with random cuddles. I refuse to be a part of this. If they aren't single. And just wanting platonic cuddles they aren't welcome here. I don't want sex. Im already tired of men pushing agendas.
First of all, thank you to the mods for letting this conversation continue.
Second, the fact that attractiveness or even gender plays into it at all shows that there is more to this than strictly platonic cuddling. Because if it was truly 100% platonic, then nobody would care what anybody looked like or even what gender they were. Let's be real.
@durantpiano physical and emotional intimacy do not require sexual or romantic attraction unless you are anticipating sexual or romantic interactions. Do you have to find a family member physically attractive in order to cuddle with them? And heavens forbid someone has to find their own children attractive to cuddle them 🤮
Also, your rating of an enthusiast here in this thread is incredibly cringey, inappropriate, and uncalled for.
Nevermind
Nevermind squared
@cuddlefaery You are another person who unfortunately jumps to assumptions and lacks the ability to carefully READ to comprehend, not just to create an unnecessary debate. 1). Have I rated you or any enthusiast in this thread or on this website? NO 🔥 2). Did I say that I, personally, rank or rate women on a scale? NO 🔥 3). Have I said anything offensive about you or spew any negativity towards you? NO 🔥 4). Have I mentioned anything about romantic or sexual? NO 🔥 5). Did you just say “And heavens forbid someone has to find their own children attractive to cuddle them”… I hope and pray a moderator deletes your account. That is BEYOND disgusting to even insinuate. Please don’t tag me in a response - you are not seeking to understand, as we can all see - you’re just spewing unnecessary assumptions and nonsense that I never stated. Yes, I used the fire emoji - which has nothing to do with anything derogatory or offensive 🔥
@Carrie_Anne In response to: “Publicly using a numbering system to rate women seems very disrespectful and immature. I’m just wondering why you do that?” 1.) Who & When did I rate someone using a numbering system? 2.) The “disrespect and immaturity” definitely isn’t coming from my end… but the beautiful ability to carefully read and not jump to assumptions certainly is coming from me.
I find ratings diminsh others. I wouldn't even rate a person's personality or intelligence from 1-10
mmmm i struggle with this one @sagantyson ... women look at other beautiful women and appreciate they are beautiful without being like sexually attracted to them.
Cuddling beautiful people in my opinion doesnt have to be about sexual attraction/can still be platonic, but its kinda.. I dunno how to put it.. like admiring a piece of beautiful art? Sorry im struggling to find the words to express what im trying to say here, but its kinda like going to a museum to see something beautiful and experience that beauty?
Beautiful people get paid more, they live longer, they are happier (according to like so many studies)... people just want to be around pretty things. Like basking in the warmth of the sun.
Now thats not to say its ALL physical beauty, people are beautiful in so many ways, but id be lying if I said attractiveness didnt affect my choice of cuddle partner.
EDIT
To that point, the only way you could like, NOT make those unconscious choices via your own bias would be for no one to have a profile picture.. whether you consciously or unconsciously do so.. you are still choosing based on preferences.
The physical attraction part needs nuance. If a person connects to another based on physically pleasing features, it does not mean they have any intentions outside of being 100% platonic.
People hold a variety of preferences. Some based on race. Age. Maybe it's a sensory thing. One might find a person's voice is soothing. Another, grating.
@cuddlefaery I don't think meeting up with a stranger or even someone you've gotten familiar with in the cuddleverse, can be compared to cuddling a family member or child.
I wouldn't feel comfortable having a family member stroke my side or hair. Or having legs wrapped in with theirs. Same with a child, really.
Maybe there's a gender distinction here? And this is me being a hugger. I would hug any man, child, or woman.
But I would not cuddle them the same way.
Quesrion: (No accusatory tone here. Just genuinely asking for POVs) Do you find it racist if someone only cuddles with another of a particular race?
Do you find it racist if someone only cuddles with another of a particular race?
You have to know the why they have that preference in order to answer that.
Wow. Here's some things we maybe shouldn't lose sight of. A cuddling site is for cuddling. Cuddlers may set their price wherever they want, for a variety of reasons. If someone's price is too high for me, then I simply am not going to cuddle with them. People (clients) have their preferences, and that's okay. We can't let the bastardization of the idea here ruin it for us all.
Cuddling is great, so why let it be sullied by the actions of others? Personally, I hold karma>attractiveness, but that's just me. Everyone is different. High prices may mean wanting less business, selective clients, or yes, extra services. I wouldn't know, as I only pay up to an amount I value the service at. I don't see any reason to complain about pricing, only inappropriate actions.
We here who care about this community must freeze out those who abuse this service. They will leave if they can't find business for that here. The OP is simply requesting this and I echo the sentiment.
On the same note, I don't think a person should be blamed as SWing or drawing men in who can't control their behavior by putting up pics that highlight their physical features.
(Within TOS)