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greenearth2
January 2017
@brains4
its the best....but only had that with one snuggler and only after months of being her client
she quit though
Brandi
January 2017
^ew...Reading some of your guys responses makes me feel overly uncomfortable actually.... And I've actually seen some of you as clients... Thought you were pretty respectful people but I guess not...!! Good to know more about some of the clients Ive seen I suppose. Glad we have the forums...
greenearth2
January 2017
People should feel safe to post without being attacked.
Brandi
January 2017
Okay... Now that I've taken the time to gather my thoughts...
I think its horrible that you say "Don't get so anal about the contract..."
Right oh okay, you're right, lets not take it so seriously,..I wont take the contract of my job seriously. Why would I do that? could it be because its there for my safety, comfort, and the comfort of the other women and men on this site..
Could it be because this website provides that contract for every ones safety. That contract protects you, the client that buys the cuddles, and protects me, the seller of the cuddles, so we all don't get in trouble with law enforcement. Its a reassurance to You, Me, and the police that this is 100% not prostitution... Which is damn well why is should be taken seriously and Il get as anal as I do because what you're saying is rude, disrespectful to the pros, and the admins of the site.
Bra and panties will raise a red flag and can possibly shut down this amazing cuddling site that is easy to use, fair, and can and will work, if everyone does their part to not be crappy and creepy. This is about love and affection; not physical appearance or sexual notions. and yes rubbing up on each other nearly in the nude is quite the sexual notion...and you may not think so but the majority of the world DOES. So lets get real please.
Pfft...
"Well worth the upgrades..." What are we a car? "options" Sorry not a menu....Lmao.. lets take that talk to craigslist please..
greenearth2
January 2017
Brandi I think you don't realize something. It's the snugglers who are doing this. Not just clients.
Snugglers are the ones offering extra crap...
I had one show up without pants. I didn't ask her to do that.
masterofcuddle (deleted user)
January 2017
Exactly, the original post was about the pros offering more and nothing about the clients. So Brandi you should blame the pros as much as the clients.
Unknown (deleted user)
January 2017
edited January 2017
@brandi
relax do to get your panties in a twist , like I said before what adult do behind a close door is their issue...you bang on about rules and contract far too much that it possible turn a sweet thing into something very mechanical.
Everyone entitled to their opinion , let not beat around bush , we are all adult's ...as a guy I love feeling of girls skin on mine so I givethat hint what I crave be it sexual or not ..it CHEMISTRY , skin to skin realise chemical and for some us is rather relaxing.I sorry cuddling whilst fulled clothed and layer in clothing isn't same as body heat and skin.
Let not get anal about rules so much but leave to common sense and communication than rule out all together or the cuddle feel as cold as f##ck and is total pointless as I have already experienced once ..where my cuddle buddy got so anal about 'do and dont' that I was left feeling it not worth my 3 hour roundntrip drive (thank god i didnt pay for her cuddle seassion)and have better cuddle with cold side of a pillow ..... she asked so many rules as was wound up so tight about after week comunication that I ACTUALLY GOT up and left her .
I believe as a heterosexual guy ,my opinion, its only a woman that give us guys that sense of calm soothing comfort when touching or embracing a woman which is rather addictive can can related to guys that can get upset when a regular or cuddle buddy all sudden disappears.
PEOPLE CHILL OUT
p.'s I agree with
@greenhouse
it not always man's fault ... in my case the girl was so anal about rules yet HER body language said something else but cuddle ..aka bed booty popping in undies!
Unknown (deleted user)
January 2017
edited January 2017
I believe that we all do need to follow the contract and I personally have never asked a pro to cuddle in bra and panties. I'm also a believer in the truth however and the contract states,
"All parties will remain clothed the entire session. If either party needs to change
clothing this will be done in private and out of sight of the other party. If a Client
shows off areas normally covered by undergarments purposely, the Cuddler has the
right to leave."
No where in the contract does it define what the term, "clothed" means. To one person, clothed may mean one thing but to the next, it may mean bra and panties. It also clearly says that you can't expose things normally covered by undergarments.
All of that being said, per the contract, cuddling in bra and panties is not breaking the contract unless body parts normally covered by undergarments are exposed.
CarlosHunt
January 2017
If subpoenaed, I will deny under oath and the treat of death that I never ever broke any of the rules of the site, ever.
OK ladies now let's get back to cuddling!
I don't think Big Brother will be watching.
Unknown (deleted user)
January 2017
edited January 2017
thank you EXACTLY ! to guy up there.... every one defiantion clothed and normal is different .. bra and panties is still clothed as naughty bits are covered ! hence bikini same as lingerie , clothed and naughty bits covered .
@brandi
your small peach dress you expose a lot thigh there!!!oh ow that nearly naked or HALF clothed ..you better wear a burka
thecigarclub (deleted user)
January 2017
@brandi
when people don't agree with you on the message boards, you lash out at them and try to beat them into submission with what you feel is correct. You are very judgmental and resort to insulting people. I applaud your efforts at keeping this site clean but your interpretation of the rules is faulty. I've seen this again and again all over the message boards. If you're going to present an argument to back up your opinion, please get the facts straight and keep things civil. Insulting people and judging gets us nowhere. An intelligent discussion, agree of disagree is what is needed.
Brandi
January 2017
Even if bra and panties are acceptable on an already fine line, cuddling in undergarments will project a negative image of cuddling both on and off this site. Even if you disagree, the concept of cuddling with someone in their undergarments will bring perversion to this site. I personally cuddle in shorter clothes sometimes that reveal my belly and legs, but I'm not wearing undergarments: I'm still decent enough to go outside.
There already is perversion on this site, as I've discovered through talking with other pros as well as interacting with members of this site myself, and even now while reading through comments. Even clients who seemed perfectly respectful the first time around might take a more "intimate" turn in our future sessions or even our future chats on Cuddle Comfort. So, to have people so callously saying things like "Eh, adults will be adults" on public forums means newcomers might think it's okay, and experienced users might try to push the limits (I've already experienced that, so it'll only grow from here). And this doesn't just go for "pros" and "clients" either: people who are here for free cuddles and free companionship should also take this site just as seriously. That's not to say two people can't grow into something more, but that should be something that stays between those two people, and it shouldn't make it's way back to Cuddle Comfort. (This excludes finding love or a relationship with someone, though that's still not the purpose of this site. If that does happen to happen for you in a rare circumstance, Let us know, we'd be happy to cheer for you both!)
My point, to sum it up: Cuddling could have a future, and that future depends on this time right now. If people are tainting this site by discarding the contract already (which...to be honest, doesn't ask all that much of us) then how can it ever last? Cuddling has a beautiful and healing purpose, but people who propagate the physical side might spoil it for the rest. I apologize for making anyone feel attacked, but what I read genuinely made me feel like female cuddlers were being objectified. It also sounded like cuddlers that I've personally experienced time with seemed to have ulterior motives, which made me lose a bit of faith in this community. I want to see Cuddle Comfort grow, I'd hate for it to be another website that gets put on some list of "Best 10 sites to get laid."
thecigarclub (deleted user)
January 2017
@brandi
it sounds to me then that your fight is not with clients, your fight is with the owner of the site to change the sites definition of the rules. If you truly believe in how you feel, please stop insulting the rest of us and trying to force your opinion down our throats and take your arguments to the proper place. If you don't like what a client says, why do you feel the need to attack them when they are not breaking the rules? If you don't agree with the rules and have your own guidlines, fine, let them be known to your clients. I am quite sure your business will not decline.
Unknown (deleted user)
January 2017
@brandI
from what I I sensing from your comment is and to which by some people you cuddle with that you now having second thoughts about their intention following their freedom to share their opinion on the topic IN FORUM. AGAIN
@BRANDI
you somewhat judging the people that have commentmented little , some past client by now reassesing their motives...branDi brandi CHILL OUT!!!
Not to sound patronising
@brandi
but I going assume your spectisim and opions are based somewhat cause of your age .
@brandi
think negative about people and you shall get negativity around you , you thinking by being half naked or naked that nothing but bad things shall come of it ...isn't always true ....... breath girl!
Mmmavocados (deleted user)
January 2017
edited January 2017
If a cuddler wants to cuddle in bra and panties, so be it. I think that's totally fine and to each their own. I've cuddled with a guy friend and he was in his underwear and it was completely platonic. I do think it is a bit shady to charge more for a "bra/panties" cuddle which ends up sexualizing it.
I personally don't cuddle in bra and panties, but sometimes I may cuddle in short shorts and and a tanktop/crop top and that almost shows as much skin as just wearing underwear anyway. Especially in California, a woman can get away with walking the streets (or exercising) in just shorts and a bra.
I definitely make sure to wear a bra underneath my clothes, though. One time I didn't and I had to reinforce my boundaries more than usual.
greenearth2
January 2017
I should point out that I've cuddled with someone who had no bra on, short shorts, and a tank top, and guess what...2 hour cuddling session never became sexual, and not once did she have to point out boundaries to me etc. Just because someone has no bra on, if they've told you they don't want you touching their breasts then don't be a douchebag client and touch them! Its really that simple.
Now that idea that cuddling with less clothes on instantly makes you a pervert or instantly means it has to lead to other things just shows a clear lack of experience. I've been with several snugglers from this site and actually from other sites as well, and I can tell you it matters more the intentions of the client than how much skin is visible.
Mmmavocados (deleted user)
January 2017
edited January 2017
I agree with you, greenearth. I know my experience had everything to do with that client, not because of my choice of clothing. But, one bad experience can change a woman (or man's) behavior. So for me, I just feel more comfortable having a bra on now.
Never argued that without one "instantly" leads to anything. Just personal experience. Same with why women may not do certain cuddling positions. They just don't feel comfortable with them
itsmeemary (deleted user)
January 2017
Bra and panty cuddling = sexual. If that's what you want, cool. Know what you're getting in to. Not my cup of tea though. It's supposed to be platonic. I like maintaining that.
Unknown (deleted user)
January 2017
I agree with
@itsmeemary
I like my cuddle sessions platonic. I rarely if ever even compliment or sweet talk my pro cuddlers for that very reason. You're intimate enough as is in a platonic cuddle session. This is just my personal choice.
greenearth2
January 2017
Well just to be clear I don't think it's necessary. But if a snuggler ends up that way I don't mind because I don't have much of a sex drive anyway. I guess others are way different.
Cuddleready
January 2017
Brandi - you crossed the line with other so-called professionals on here when you and they decided to charge nearly as much as prostitutes for being intimate with men or women. Its not about what you wear, escorts only offer companionship too. Its the price that says it all!
Don't give me this sob story about affording rent, if I got paid like you I could afford a mansion! I don't believe you would ever do it for free, you are all about the quick and easy money! I believe the only reason you are judging everyone like your some saint, is that you are too afraid of losing your gravy train, lazy women job!! So spare us your belly aching! I for one am sick and tired of it!
Brandi
January 2017
I think everyone needs a nice big reminder of "if you have nothing nice to say say nothing at all" I've made the point already, and I even did such in a DECENT manner. I realize at first I may have not communicated properly, and I apologized to anyone that I may have offended and I meant it, and y'all may do with it as you will.
However, I find many hypocrites here...
I "need to chill", and I need to
"stop attacking" and if people "don't agree with me, I start to force my opinion down others throats" but yet I have several people ganged up on me saying some pretty cruel things. When in reality, I just want one simple thing; respect.
Luckily, I'm a strong woman and it takes words take a lot to hurt me. Thanks for trying though! c;
@CuddleReady, Its not my business on why you are so hateful towards me, but I hope you work that out... it must be really strenuous being so negative all the time. If you have an issue with pricing and cuddle therapy, that's a whole different monster that has already been tackled as well in alternate forums, please catch up c;
I wish you all the best in your "cuddling" endevours and Il just be leaving now, my opinions are clearly not shared here, so I will take them to other pros, friends, and people that do agree.
. its wonderful to know the group of people we have roaming about on here
I appreciate that you were wonderful enough to show your true selves in the forums for everyone to see. god forbid you guys actually ruin cuddling, weather it be for yourself, or someone else
but you wont ruin it for me and Im going to keep spreading the good word of cuddling, and trying to make it grow in healthy ways
xoxo
lalalla
brandiii
thecigarclub (deleted user)
January 2017
edited January 2017
@brandi
I speak on behalf of several people. We are tired of hearing your hypocrisy. You are not the face of cuddle comfort. Stop trying to act like you're an angel when we all know the truth about you but have been kind enough to keep our words to ourselves.
jacobbur
January 2017
Not to be mean but cuddling will never take off like you say it will. As someone mentioned, a lot of people charge more than escorts who can cuddle and do more so really, it might be better to get an escort who will happily cuddle you and could be more affectionate. Just my personal opinion or even just get a massuage for cheaper with no happy ending. only way to ruin it is by killing or raping someone. That's what will do it. Plus since there is ZERO screening on here (I believe it says everything should be agreed on these messages and just talk on here, you may not even get a phone number to get a bit of info). I actually think I could book sessions without sending a picture because it is about the money to some.
Also lets be honest, you ARE selling yourself. Some girls will put up really cute pictures /(some could be risky) because they have to sell their appearance so they get a client. I mean, honestly, if this was truly just about healing and comfort, you could hire anyone and don't even care for a picture. Heck hire a guy if you are a straight male. It isn't sexual, right? Just for comfort and friendship. So hire a guy who hire a girl you do not find at all attractive. I mean that will help too, right? Just take one face photo, no makeup, and boom that's it. All you need to sell.
jeff53
January 2017
edited January 2017
Hey Guys,
From my point of view the whole cuddle in panties thing seems a bit much. Maybe it is just me, but it is like how radio stations can play music with graphic lyrics as long as they bleep, dub, or skip the profaine words only in reverse.
It is apparent to anyone that cuddling for healing or comfort sake does not require skin on skin nor clothing that just covers the naughty bits in order to be beneficial. It is the contact or touch connection that does this and can be accomplished even in regular clothing.
That being said let us reflect to a scene in a movie called "defending your life(1991)" The sushi resturant scene.
https://youtu.be/SU_iOdV3abs
Frank indicates that business doubled in a month because he advertises his club differently.
In our world there is always going to be people lookng for more while paying less just as some professionals will be looking to make more money by advertising differently or providing perks for a higher fee.
Breaking it down simply is Supply and demand. Has nothing to do with healing or helping others. Everyone has a right to engage in activity of their chosing and so they do. The problem occurs when people start lying to themselves about what is actually going on. Or if they begin to expect from others something that they know they shouldn't be.
Its like in another thread how everyone was talking about "what celebrity would you like to cuddle with" and all the posts were about cuddling with women who were "sexy" or "hot", etc. Kinda defeats the purpose of the intensions of this website don't you think? So you have all these men on this website acting like wolves on the make and that in turn causes the women on this site to give pause about actually cuddling.(talking about non-pros here people).
In regards to pros = you all know what you are doing. Your adults and as such are responsible for your choices. However, how about we change this website back from a dating site/FWB site/hookup site into what it was originally intended as - platonic cuddling? That's no sex, no sexy this or that, no hot this or that, no extra services, etc.
only takes 1 bad apple right? Theres a lot of good people here - lets not ruin it for them.
Unknown (deleted user)
January 2017
edited January 2017
Can we shut this thread down already.
Unknown (deleted user)
January 2017
edited January 2017
here here ...some people need to know how to 'take it' if.they are gone 'give it'
chococuddles (deleted user)
January 2017
In before shutdown! YAHOO!!!
Cuddleready
January 2017
Agreed Brains4.
Brandi, no hate for you or any other so-called pro, just telling it like it is. You think you can brandish everyone with your version of the so-called truth, but not allow others theirs. Your posts are judgmental and condescending. I've read the other threads and my post here was not about money, but about the perception given by the amount of money the so-called pros on here are charging. If you don't like it, do your part to change the perception - charge a rate comparable to the training and experience you actually have. If it was strictly cuddling people were paying for, Jacobbur is right, the price would be the same for a guy, short, tall, skinny, plump, pretty, ugly, old, young, etc. I don't see guys making much money, if any, on here in comparison to women (and the earnings appear to go up with appeal). So let's be honest, you so-called pros are all in it for the money and supply and demand rules as Jeff53 says. Quit lying to yourself and everyone else, its the $$$!
Mark
Mod
January 2017
edited January 2017
Brandi charges bang on the standard rate. It might be worth making a new thread solely for the purpose of challenging professional cuddling as a whole and the role capitalism plays in the industry. That way we might avoid these skirmishes breaking out all over the place. A forum about cuddling should be the last place for hostility.
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