The hookers make it hard for us pro cuddlers

YummyDimples

Is there anyone else out there whos tired of being asked about incall/outcall can you wear lingerie and can i rub and kiss all over you? I want to strictly cuddle not cuddle plus some on the side, smh

greenearth2

Why are you blaming things on hookers?  What hookers? 
I haven't encountered any hookers on this site in over several months of using it

Incall Outcall is a legit question. Every pro should post on their profile if they are able to host. Some don't host but are willing to go see a client and others arent willing to go see a client but host. Some do both

But yeah it sounds like you got some creepers in your area.

Brandi

I always just say "Il wear what im comfortable wearing" if they ask about clothing or lingerie. I realized its unavoidable that some of these men are going to be pervy weather we acknowledge them or not. Just twist it into your favor by keeping the conversation professional, if they go off route again, herd them back in.. like sheep haha.
the people that genuinely need cuddles will come around, dont be discouraged! and dont let them get to you. 

@greenearth is a hooker

While asking pervy questions about rubbing or lingerie is perverted indeed. Asking for shorts, sweats, leggings etc is completely acceptable imo. I respect boundaries when cuddling but I'd also like to feel the soft touch of a woman.

If someone wears a hazmat suit to a session then alot of positions dont feel the same. Im not talking about spooning and using it as an excuse to cop a feel but positions where their leg is over yours don't feel remotely the same.

greenearth2

Brandi please stop calling people pervy if they care about what a snuggler wears. Honestly why bring negativity here.
This post has headline against hookers but you use it to bash clients again.

Adding the following:
Generally, it shouldn't be a problem if you prefer tshirts and shorts, or leggings, vs jeans and bulky sweaters etc...
But that is a far cry from asking for lingerie.  I would never ask a snuggler to wear lingerie.  That is obviously crossing the line... I just don't think we should label anyone asking for certain cuddling outfits as a pervert.  That just drives clients away.   Keep in mind, clients are the customers, and they are the ones who say what is ok to ask or not ask..if you don't like it, you could find different customers I guess?  

Incall/outcall is definitely a legit question. As for lingerie, although I've never asked a girl to wear lingerie, the site doesn't say that a cuddler can't wear lingerie during a session and thus a client has the right to ask for it. The site does say no kissing. All of that being said and I've said this before but the blame for these kind of behaviors needs to be removed from strictly the client. This is a two way street and both pros who allow it and clients who are seeking it are all responsible. Not all pros are hookers and not all clients are perves. I agree with @alternis where he says certain clothing requests are absolutely acceptable. I have requested shorts and a tank top and the majority of pros have graciously accepted my request.

I always start the conversation with a pro asking them what they are comfortable with me wearing because the goal is to make both parties comfortable. Pretty much everyone has told me boxers or shorts and T shirt is ok. Then I ask if the pro can wear the same. Noone has had any problem with that. It's good to talk about clothing because it would be awkward if I was in shorts and a T shirt and pro was in jeans and a sweater. So I'm not being a perve asking about clothing. I'm simply trying to make everyone comfortable.

Guys, it looks like we have been referred to as not only perves but as sheep. What do you guys think about that? 

I think it's nice that gentlemen are present.

I also think it helps everyone if Pros would place their rates and incall/outcall availability in their profile. 

Saves aggravation and time.  Well, time.

docgatorb

Baaah.

greenearth2

I am still mystified by the suggestion there are hookers at all. I've been on this site for months and no hookers ever approached me.
I think it's bs. It's about as believable as trump and his alternative facts.

aaronchi

I don't know about hookers but I am sure some of the pros get questionable requests from clients. Whoever those people are though, they aren't the guys posting on the forums.

I'm sure these pros do get questionable requests. In fact the other day I asked a pro if she wouldn't mind wearing a hazmat suit for our session. Lol

YummyDimples

Well, as a pro I can tell that there are girls doing more than expected because if there werent the clients wouldnt be comfortable going around asking.

@morpheus we weren't referred to as perves and sheep, she clearly said the guys asking the disrespectful questions are the perves. I didn't take it that she meant every guy on here is a perve... c'mon, this is getting ridiculous. 

@jjjohnston although you chose to only call me out in your comment, several other people have the same complaints and issues. This one incident is not the only incident that has led to the ill feelings that many of the gentleman have directed at a very small number of professionals (most are amazing). This is something that has been building up for sometime now and we are asking the site to treat clients and providers equally. If clients on the site are reprimanded and removed from the site, then females/pros should be given the same treatment. This isn't simply about perves and sheep, it's about a disparity in treatment that we want the site to address. We are fair and want to be treated fairly in return.

4cuddles

I did wonder too if Brandi's comment had been taken out of context as a result of previous disagreements.

True you were one of a few people who took offence to her comment.

I wonder how u feel about that particular comment of hers now?

Yes we shouldn't allow ANYONE to be offensive or abusive on here. However, let's not miss the point of bans or use them just to be punitive which I think they could become if we are not careful.

Even Brains had numerous warnings after repeatedly inappropriate behaviours.. which I think shows how fair Mark tries to be for everyone. Far way lenient than I would be but I digress..

I agree no one should be beyond reprimand/ ban but we have to be careful not to make bans personal.

This divide between male clients and female pros is at times exhausting to read.

4cuddles

Forgot my magical word *'some'!

Some male clients and some female pro. Unfortunately, the same issues keep arising in most discussions and tend to dominate.

@annie85 I agree with you. @morpheus I was responding to your post directly, there was no reason to include anyone else. this whole thing started with the dimple girl's post on the other thread, where she said some dude spoke disrespectfully to her, Brandi made a passing light hearted comment and everyone took offense and took it out of context. To be honest, it's hard to read. She's been ganged up on before, and being an outsider just reading what's going on, I think, in my opinion, that she's been attacked for no reason and I finally felt like I needed to speak up. I don't believe for a second that any of her comments should be put in the same catagory  as that brain dude's. If she was doing some wrong I'm sure Mark would be on top of it.  Feels like you and a few others may have a problem with her and when she posts things that are really not a big deal, you guys turn it into a huge ordeal. Geez, now you got me doing it, wasting my time responding to petty bull crap. 
This site is supposed to be about love and cuddles, can't we just have love talk instead of hate talk? there's enough of that in the world today. 

@annie85 I thought about it later and thought to myself, it's a shame that we are up in arms over such small really insignificant words. I do believe however that if this was all addressed previously in other threads, it wouldn't have come to this. Several clients voiced their discontent and it still appears that nothing has been done to correct this behaviors that many of us feel is wrong. We'll see how things go in the future.

@jjjohnston This thing actually didn't start on that topic. That pro uses jeans in their sessions and will call you a pervert if you ask for shorts or leggings. Asking for shorts or leggings is a reasonable request. The person you defend is not so innocent either as a lot has gone on that you have no idea about.

@jjjohnston how can you confirm her comment was light hearted and that we took it all out of context? The only person who truly knows how she meant what she said is the person who said it. You say we all gang up on her, do you think the comments we make have nothing behind them and we just woke up and all decided we are going to gang up on someone? There are reasons behind all of this and there are also very simple solutions. We ask that she respect us as men/clients and stop making disrespectful blanket statements. 

Ok @alternis and @morpheus, clearly something else is going on here that myself and 99% of all the members here have no idea of. Still not convinced she is a bad person. 
Her wearing jeans to cuddle and getting upset being asked to wear less isn't enough for me to be that up in arms... she has her values and she should be respected for those values.
If you guys know her personally and there is some back history that no one knows about then this forum is not the place to air it out on. Your only inviting people into your drama that don't want anything to do with it and can obviously misconstru what's going on.. 
This all reminds me of high school, at times it can be entertaining, but mostly it's annoying as hell. I'm gonna stay out of your business now...

@alternis isn't making a complaint because she wears jeans or won't wear shorts. Re-read his comment, he clearly states that she will insult you and call you a pervert for even requesting shorts.

greenearth2

 seriously jjohnston....if you just read the posts a bit more carefully you should be able to see that no one is trashing anyone for wanting to wear jeans.  What they're upset at is being called a pervert for asking a snuggler to wear shorts.  The proper response is, sorry I wear jeans.  Not "you're a pervert".  
See the difference? 

I read the posts, it was clear greenearth. they asked her to wear less than she was comfortable wearing. Why does her response hurt anyone's feelings? Maybe you should read my post a bit more carefully.

Cash me outside how bout dat

greenearth2

He's probably a trump supporter. Explains a lot.

@jjohnston I think the guys here just want some respect being that they are spending hundreds of dollars of their hard earned money to see these girls. Most of the Pros are great but a few need to learn a lesson on customer respect. To be a Pro in this industry you have to be able to connect with and get along with a wide array of people and personalities. If you can't do that it probably not the right industry for you.