Beware Karma stalkers!

Hi all, I recently received a private message in my inbox from another male profile in my geographical area, inquiring about my experience with two female pro cuddlers about whom I had posted Karma reviews. The sense I got from his message (although not stated explicitly) was that he was probably looking for cuddlers who were willing to be more intimate than what the site rules allow.

Through some investigation, I was able to determine that this person had sent similar messages to other people in an effort to glean private information about multiple pro cuddlers. I reported the message, and his account was subsequently banned.

Of course, it is not against the rules to ask someone about their experience with another person on the site. There may be legitimate reasons for doing so in certain cases. However, if someone you don't know is asking for private information about another member, such an inquiry should be viewed with suspicion and, depending on the circumstances, may warrant being reported.

Private message to me (redacted)

you cuddle some of my favorite pro cuddle providers and some i want to cuddle with. would you mind sharing your experiences with [profile 1] and [profile 2]? if you are more comfortable sharing over email, my address is [email]

i can also share my experience with other cuddlers in the seattle area.

-[name]

My reply

Hi [name], I have left Karma reviews for both of the cuddlers you mentioned, as well as several others. I don't have anything to share beyond what I have posted publicly.

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Comments

  • "Eternal vigilance is the price we pay for liberty..." (often attributed to Thomas Jefferson)

    That's awful that someone would engage in that kind of stealth cyberstalking. You handled the situation very well! It's a good reminder that eternal vigilance is required to weed out bad actors and for CC to remain a safe environment for all. Thanks for sharing!

  • @CuddlesToGo Ty, for being so aware. 🤗🤗🤗 It happens. People poke and prod. One person legitimately scared one of my clients. It can happen. I don’t find it’s super frequent and the website is good at handling them.

  • I had somebody ask me if I had personal contact information of a pro in my karma who deactivated. I had colorful words I wanted to say but I didn't want to get banned myself. She deactivated for a reason.

  • edited October 2023

    I personally wouldn't want to book or meet with someone who doesn't have my consent on getting my personal information. They either have to directly get it from me or if they aren't able to reach me hypothetically speaking if I were to deactivate my account, I would prefer that they ask the person who has my number to ask me first if I am okay to give out my own personal information to the individual. I do not wish to provide everyone my contact information and want to reciprocate the same respect back.

  • That's unnerving. Thank you for being so diligent and for keep us aware. :)

  • TYSM for such a candid and accurate response. Highly appreciated.

  • Wow ! I actually just cuddled with someone who was telling me that this happened to him as well and he finds it very odd and he reports it right away . I think that is so strange that someone would go out of their way and do that. Thankyou for reporting!

  • @CuddlesToGo
    On two occasions I have had other males DM me asking about someone I had left karma for. Just like you, even though they didn’t say it, I had the impression they were looking for someone willing to bend the rules.

    In both cases (different people from different states asking about different pros) I told the person contacting me the pro they were inquiring about was purely platonic and I then notified the pros about who had inquired about them. I told them exactly what was asked and how I responded. I did not want someone trying to use me as reference or in any way suggesting I could vouch for the person who contacted me.

  • edited October 2023

    @Jova114 Tag team clothes line! From the top ropes!

  • edited October 2023

    @CuddlesToGo

    Thanks for sharing your recent experience so that others can be aware of how “cringe”some individuals on the site can be !!!
    That sounded like a very discerning experience, so sorry you had to deal with that.

  • edited October 2023

    This has happened to me more than once. The message quoted by the OP is a good example of a message from a bad actor. The messages from people making a genuine enquiry have a different feel. I won't say here what the difference is for obvious reasons.

    I have Reported some of them on nothing more than a hunch and seen that subsequently they were banned.

    In any event you should definitely consider telling the subject of the message what has happened. There is no need for this be secret - it's completely fine to ask somebody about their experience of another member, and therefore it is fine to tell them.

    Having said all that, I haven't had one of these enquires for ages. Wonder why. Used to happen not often, but from time to time.

  • You did the right thing. I shudder to think of how far this kind of thing can escalate. Thank you for your care and diligence.

  • If someone asks a question about karma I’ve posted and it seems to be a legitimate concern, I’ve got no issue answering their questions.

    If they ask in a ‘weird way’, I’m going to let that cuddler know

  • Nothing is sacred anymore. I'm huge with boundaries . For example, my tiktok and work is 2 little areas of my life that I will not pursue dating. Working is strictly for working and my social media is a fun outlet for me where I will not allow anything other than fun. It firces people to interact in other ways to date as opposed to using what seems so easy. A private message on a social platform or even here. Nope sorry. Join a dating site for anything physical. This is the last of sacred spots any of us has

  • I've had that happen many times before. Rando asking about cuddlers. It's so weird!

  • @Minestrone101
    Tag me in man!!!!!!

  • I've had both men and women ask about karma, just wanting to confirm the sincerity of my karma posts. For a paid service, I don't think it's uncommon for people to want to get more personal reviews. Trust is better built from human contact than a webpage. Like, I'm a baker and people ask me for bakery and restaurant reviews rather than going to an online service like yelp.

    Trying to exploit a system of trust building is so creepy though. I'm glad folks are vigilant about vibe-checking and keeping the information the give out related to professional capabilities. This is such a special thing to offer.

  • edited October 2023

    It really depends cause back when I had my old account with close to 20 karma there were pros I wanted to give bad reviews to but didn't because they can do the same out of retaliation. Just stuff like getting shorted on time, or this one person that didn't wear deodorant and smelled like armpits, being extremely late to a session

    But at the same time when I deleted my account cause there were a bunch of hidden escorts after sites where they would usually advertise shut down. I did make a forum post about that and had a bunch of guys ask me who were the escorts so they could "avoid them" and how much were they charging extra for extra and what was offered.

    It's not bad to ask but it depends on how they ask and what they ask.

  • edited October 2023

    @sausalito Yeah, that’s what’s unfortunate about the karma system, and why I would understand if some people want to verify between messages about cuddlers. If I’m giving a 5 star karma on public display, it’s because it was a darn good cuddle and they were genuinely awesome, and I don’t mind reiterating that if someone asks me privately. If the session left something to be desired, I probably just won’t leave them karma. If they did something horrible, I’m going to report them and leave them one star

    If someone is asking who the escorts are, I would report them so the mods can ban them.

  • [Deleted User]Hugginsworth (deleted user)

    How do you know the person asking wasn't attempting to root out crypto-escorts or other bad-faith members in order to report them? Maybe they were trying to confirm a suspicion based on the profile.

  • edited October 2023

    @Hugginsworth i can sort tell based on how they phrase the question. It’s just a hunch, as @CuddleDuncan mentioned, but the one I got a weird vibe from was shortly banned.

  • @Hugginsworth

    Maybe they were trying to confirm a suspicion based on the profile.

    If you have such a suspicion, you should Report it to the mods.

  • [Deleted User]Hugginsworth (deleted user)

    Agreed. I just have a thing about assuming the worst about people. :)

  • Hi @Hugginsworth, I agree, we should not assume the worst, and I'm certainly not trigger happy in reporting people. You'll note in my original post I wrote, "Through some investigation..." So I had reasons to make the report other than the one message sent to me.

  • edited October 2023

    I'm trigger happy as hell on Reporting people. Almost all of them are gone in a week.

    I couldn't live with myself if I didn't Report and they went on to abuse or assault somebody.

  • Thanks for being vigilant @CuddlesToGo. The longer I’m on this site (less than a year so far) the more it seems there’s just a constant boundary pushing of site rules and personal boundaries. I’ve assumed there are other sites or channels to solicit sex work but maybe that’s wrong. Regardless, it’s nice to see so many caring men on this thread and thanks to moderators and community for keeping watch, reporting, and banning. A thankless job but essential to safety of CC users and credibility of this site.

  • Yeah .... I've had people reach out and forward me messages that have been sent to them. Cringe. 😬😳

  • I was contacted by a member of the mod team after receiving a similar DM from someone (they had been reported). Mods take a keen interest in this kind of behavior.

  • I just got a DM from one of my clients about a guy who had viewed his profile a couple of times and asked about me. I'd had a consultation call with him about a month ago and spoken to him a week ago about a travel fee, but since then he's been viewing my profile almost every day. Now he's looking at and messaging my clients too...Should I report him or have my client do it? Both? Glad I saw this thread.

  • Yeah that does sound a little suspicious. Not so much the fact that he's viewed your profile (it's certainly not unheard of for a cuddler to visit someone's profile several times), but that he's regularly viewing the profiles of your clients and specifically asking about you - that part sounds a little "creeper." Not a bad idea for you to have a moderator look into it who can probably see any other communications he's had with any other clients of yours. Hope it all works out!

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