action star trek like the new movies by JJ lensflare? Bleh. I much prefer episodes like Who watches the watchers, The defector, or Pen pals.
@curiousgeorge1 @JasonCuddles whoops, I derailed this discussion.
I don’t like that he changed the timeline, because that’s always going to lead to continuity errors and bad logic. All that aside, I was more upset with how much he changed the characters.
I think Kirk should’ve earned his rank, yeah he’s the “cowboy captain” but that’s only significant if you know he’s also experienced, well-trained and competent. And Spock crying made me mad! Spock didn’t cry when his own father was dying in TOS (I don’t remember the episode name, but I think it’s the same one Amanda smacks him in). Why would he cry for this very unprofessional guy he’s only recently met, especially when he’s had even less human influence to ‘corrupt’ him?
All that said I still watch it and cry during the reverse-WoK scene, but you know, with a degree of annoyance.
I’m more optimistic for Discovery, it has action with more substance.
OMG yes. Kirk becoming captain in the(first?) movie really annoyed me. The all action no story/thought direction of abrams is IMO terrible. My favourite episodes of non-JJ trek are ones that are more focused on philosophical debate and not on how many aliens kirk can punch in an hour.
@JasonCuddles so what you’re saying is, you like The Next Generation.
Yeah next gen is my favourite. I still like DS9/a decent amount of voyager but discovery hasn't left a good impression with me. The fact that the chief of security of the discovery lowered the force field of an alien cage without even checking if it was unconscious(and defending herself with a weapon she knew was useless) was so incredibly stupid I couldn't stand watching anything beyond that.
Plus the Tardigrade nipple clam warp drive...hmmmm........yeah
Anyways I am probably going to give season two of discovery a chance because I am a pretty big fan of star trek but I really don't have much hope for it. But watching the rest of the first season?...yeah, not going to happen.
I am curious though....how much of the klingon did you understand?
Hablo español, y me gustaría conocer a hispanohablantes nativos para ver cómo hablan de acurrucarse (“cuddling”) en castellano. (Translation: I speak Spanish and I would like to meet native Spanish speakers to see how they talk about cuddling in Spanish.)
Likewise, I sign American Sign Language (ASL) and would like to meet native (or near-native) Deaf 🧏♂️ signers to see how they talk about cuddling in ASL. 🤟
Je parle français aussi. Où sont des francophones natives qui câlent («cuddle»)? (Translation: I speak French too. Where are the native francophones who cuddle?)
Other than that, I have some working knowledge of Italian and Portuguese and know ein bisschen deutch and skoshi Japanese (a “bit“ of each).
Looking forward to talking about consent and cuddling with folks from the above language communities!
Spanish, a little Greek, a little French, a little Italian, few phrases in Farsi, and a lot of alcohol.
English and a little zarma.
I speak English, French and spotty Kiswahili. I saw someone here speaks Klingon!?!?!
Last time I was on Duolingo, there was a Klingon course available
I speak two fluently, English and Italian. Then I understand Spanish and can speak somewhat, and I have introductory level French and German. Also studying Arabic and Czech for fun!
Portuguese and English fluently, and can handle Spanish.
I 2nd @cuddlebugTM 🤪😛😝 lol
Only English fluently any more. I used to be somewhat fluent in Spanish and could get by in Italian but now I can hardly exchange pleasantries due to lack of use. It pains me to have put so much time and effort into learning those languages, only to lose them. If I had the means, I’d travel more. In an environment where no one speaks English my Italian and Spanish improve rapidly.
I only speak English becuase in the US they start teaching you other languages right when your brain stops being able to absorb them as well around puberty/middle school-high school. I just don’t have a brain for other languages. I actually went out of my way in college to get an exemption from the foreign language requirement via a psycho educational evaluation. I wish the world just spoke one language because it’s simply too hard to learn other languages especially living in a monolingual society. The effort is not worth the payoff unless you travel frequently.
@xandriarain look up the language “Esperanto” it was created in the late 1800’s with the hopes of of what you mentioned & It being an universal language / world peace , today more than 100,000 people speak it natively & dual lingo (the language app) offers it & makes it very easy to learn.
@xandriarain I wholeheartedly agree with you that languages should be taught from early on. I would’ve loved to start learning French when I was seven years old, but I had to wait until I was 13 to take it. I also agree with excusing certain students from having to take a foreign language, since I have taught many ASL classes and seen how certain students who did very well in other subjects and tried their best in my class just couldn’t get passing grades.
However, I disagree with you that everyone in the world should speak one language. To me, part of the beauty of this world is the variety of languages, cultures, beliefs, religions, mythologies, and best of all— foods! I don’t know if you like to eat the same food all the time, or if you think everyone in the world should eat the same food, but I perish the thought.
Historically, monolingualism has been something forced upon people, and people have fought against it and preserved their native language when their oppressors weren’t looking, just like the deaf children whose teachers would tie their hands behind their backs or slap them with rulers when they signed in class would sign with each other during recess or in the dorms. If it weren’t for those children there might be no American Sign Language today, there might be no Deaf culture and community, and there might be no provisions in the American with Disabilities Act (ADA) for deaf people to have captioning, video relay service, or interpreters (actually, without the help of deaf people there might be no ADA at all). ASL wouldn’t be the third most used language in the United States, and there wouldn’t be so many ASL classes available to students who didn’t want to take a “foreign” language.
That gets me to your other point about how it’s worthless to learn a language if you don’t travel. There are millions of Deaf people living right here in your home country who use ASL, and there are plenty of people in this country who speak Spanish, and millions who speak other languages as well. You don’t have to leave the country to use the language.
I look forward to using my languages to reach out to people in communities who may not otherwise receive the healing touch of cuddling.
I speak English and Arabic I believe is the oldest language existed
@nurturingman I had no idea ASL had a history like that! It's interesting, because Braille did as well (blind kids were forced to use that stupid "raised alphabet" crap for the longest time, despite it being ineffective and frustrating for them).
I only speak English, but I did teach myself Braille years ago - I used to pass secret notes to my blind friend in choir, and she got a kick out of it and helped me improve. I still have my slate and stylus, and occasionally punch out a sentence or two to see how much I remember. Sometimes I think it might be fun to be certified as a transcriber.
I speak English/Spanish fluently. A little Italian, but can read/understand it better than I can speak it. Same goes for French.
Plain English and WV., hillbilly, where we search for ramps and cook them, go to the POKE store for something to drink and go the creak to fish and sit on the Davenport to watch the boob tube, go to the drive in for a slaw dog and on the way back home we stop at a road side stand and buy some CHICKIE PINS. LOL
I can read, write, and speak in 3 languages fluently. I can also read music notes if anyone wants to call that a type of language since it does "say" things to the reader but only if they can read that language.
English & Spanish. I'm half native american & half creole..... & spent most of my childhood in mexico..... of the 8 children my mother had, the youngest is mexican and the only one that can't speak spanish. LOL!
@Amortentia , I have a question if you don't mind. I know nothing about music, but have often wondered, is the music notes different for each language or the same world wide-??
English with hiccups of hillbilly (“crick” not creek). I had picked up some broken Spanish for retail customers back in the day, but without that job, I’ve forgotten almost all of it 😩 It’s really a shame because I always thought Spanish was so much more efficient than proper English.
@waynewv: I hope you don't mind me answering (the subject's super interesting).
Yes, musical notation can differ from country to country! I read sheet music, but the Western notation I'm familiar with doesn't work well for a lot of non-Western music—stuff gets lost in translation.
Check out the In various countries tab on this Wikipedia page! It's cooool.
Jeongganbo is Korean, and records rhythm, pitch, and time.
This is Indian, and works with non-twelve-tone musical temperament (stuff Western staff notation just can't handle).
This is Stolp Notation! It's Russian, and tells the reader what mood to sing the melody with. It records the melody itself not so much as notes, but rather as transitions between notes. So, like, "two steps up, one step down." But how much is a step? It depends. You gotta study to know!
And so on. Seriously, go read the article. It's really cool.
@waynewv as it was pointed out stuff may get lost in translation but the more skillful the music writer is the more likely he can avoid that. Some can just write it based on listening to the music. So as long as their skills are great on this they should not only be able to play it correctly but write the music down correctly. I cannot play music by ear. I learned to play by reading music notes so there's no way I would attempt to even write down the notes if I hear a song being played. I've even copied music notes from a song by hand and messed up on some notes but that's because the original person wrote it by hand too so it was harder to read for me than if it was done by a computer. But in terms of the length of how a note is to be played like half note or 8th note or whatever the case may be it will be the same in all languages. At least from all the languages I've seen so far. So for example if I take my Fur Elise by Beethoven music notes and give it to someone in Canada or Europe or Asia...they should have no trouble playing it or reading it if they know how to read music. It's like math. It's fairly similar everywhere. Unless some place likes to do math with roman numerals or something but anyone seeing 2+2 will understand what it means at any part of the world basically.
@Ahmedali999 Arabic is old but Tamil and Sanskrit are much older. Evidence of Tamil goes back to 30,000 BC. It is still spoken by millions in India to this day.
@nurturingman I do enjoy other cultures and would like to see other countries preserve their culture, cuisine, history, religion while speaking the same language. ASL is different since it is a necessity for those who are unable to hear or speak But hypothetically all hearing/speaking humans could speak the same language if they were taught it from birth. I personally don’t have any deaf or spanish only speaking friends. I live in Pennsylvania and there is not a large Spanish-speaking population here. I mainly see people from Russian speaking countries and Indians and many of them knowing English. I knew one deaf kid from my high school and he had a cochlear implant and could speak and understand English perfectly. My ex who I was with for four years is Ukrainian. He would try to teach me Russian words and phrases and I would forget them within the hour of him teaching them to me. The only things that stuck with me were a few cursewords that he said frequently. I have ADHD with slow processing speed and poor working memory and it makes learning and retaining a new language very difficult. I know there is a new technology that allows you to speak to somebody in a different language then they speak and it will automatically translate what they say in an ear piece but I don’t know how good that technology is yet. In terms of deaf people I feel like it would be just as easy to send them text messages as it would to sign to them. That’s why all spoke the same language there would be many opportunities for people to connect with each other that just aren’t there now, they would be billions of friendships, love stories, rags to riches stories which just aren’t possible with language barriers. I’m not a very religious person but the Tower of Babel story always drove home the point that the fact that our entire human race cannot communicate with each other as a punishment and a curse. Both English and Spanish are spoken in many different parts of the world and even though many different countries speak the same language they still have their own cultural identity and cuisine.
Russian and English. Russian is my native language was born and raised in Moscow. Been in America for 20 years. I still go back ones or twice a year to visit family but it's been impossible with covid. Hope they open borders soon. If you happen to speak or learning Russian let's connect.