With the rising numbers of monkey pox in the news, is anyone else thinking about this since it is transmissible via cuddling?
I am educating myself. Here is what I have found. Educate yourself if you wish ....
https://www.cdc.gov/poxvirus/monkeypox/prevention.html
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/infectious-diseases/expert-answers/monkeypox-faq/faq-20533608
https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/22371-monkeypox
Are MonkeyPox cases asymptomatic? You're not gonna cuddle if you're obviously ill I hope.
@Mike403 The experts don't fully know yet, they think MonkeyPox is only transmissible after the blisters are visible, they are currently doing testing or investigations to determine if MonkeyPox is transmissible during the first aprox 21 days incubation period similarly to how COVID is transmitted where symptoms haven't started yet. If that's the case,then we are in some serious trouble, but if it's fully 100% validated that MonkeyPox can only be transmitted after the blisters are visible/symptoms have started, then we should be fine, it would only be a matter of not cuddling someone that is visible covered with blisters in their face, neck, hands, and/or arms, etc...
If it’s only transmissible after the blisters become obvious, how is it that people are spreading it? Who in their right mind would cuddle when they have visible blisters?
Considering that we cuddle clothed, I would think that would cut down on the possibility of transmission.
@Babichev - People still go out in public when they know they're sick. We never had a disease before Covid in the last 100 years that required everyone to socially distance. How likely is it that there are suddenly two of them this close together?
I think they are going to find it is transmissible like chicken pox. Cleveland clinic: "Both viruses can be spread through skin-to-skin or prolonged face-to-face contact, but chickenpox is very contagious and spreads more easily than monkeypox." What I heard today, the disease could possibly be transported via the air (IF someone has lesions in their mouth or throat) and or contaminated fabric (towels, clothing, etc). Healthcare practitioners are encouraged to use contact precautions (gown, cloves, mask) when treating a known patient.
Rule of thumb (for me at least), don't cuddle if you don't feel well or feel something coming on. Stay safe y'all.
https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/monkeypox?amp=true
Here’s an informative page I found. It’s very thorough. That aside, be careful and safe. Even if you feel the slightest of cold symptoms, i.e. sore throat, runny nose, sneezing, coughing, don’t cuddle. Stay home from work if you have to. It’s transmittable through close contact. It’s far better to be safe than sorry.
Apparently the small pox vaccine protects from getting it or at least reduces severity. That vaccine was stopped in 1972. So anyone born before then might have some protection. But since, as we know from COVID, nothing is set in stone with these viruses who knows what will come out next in this regard.
Good information to know @snugbuddy.
Although routine smallpox vaccination ended in 1972 the vaccine was still around. I got vaccinated for smallpox in 1982. I was traveling to East Africa and the last known wild case was in a neighboring country. I was vaccinated as a child but it didn’t “take.” The county health department still had 2 doses left so my husband and I got the last two available here in St. Louis. I still have my vaccination card from that.
I’m not too worried about it.
Well, I wasn't... 🥴
I’m concerned, but cautiously concerned. I’m not sure if the hype around it is worth the worry. Obviously I’d be cautious of wh i cuddle because of this, but I’m not sure if it’s more than any other health worries I’ve had in my life.
It sounds terrible, but i feel it’s one of those things that might be over hyped. I don’t want to say that it’s not a thing but if someone had any sort of lesion or rash or bump I’d have to ask more questions. I’m not a medical professional so I’d ask questions and research. Great example, I’ve never been physicallly close to anyone with any sort of keyloid but if i were i would ask. Hopefully it’s taken well, if not I’d choose not to be close.
As i type this i realize i don’t know how visible it is. Maybe the pox show up in let’s say the small of your back, I’d likely not know. I got some reading to do.
According to what I read, there has been 2,500 cases in the U.S. and nobody has died from it. Diseases will always be a thing. If we worried about every one, we'd always be living in fear.
@BashfulLoner It doesn't sound terrible to think it might be over hyped. I'm also cautiously concerned.
@achetocuddle - News outlets wants you to click on their story to get paid, so of course they're gonna overhype it. I just feel like people are still so shaken up about Covid, every new disease outbreak is being treated like it's the end of the world.
@Mike403 Yes. And I've heard contradictory info about monkeypox on the news. I do wonder how people can be expected to take it to heart when they don't say the same thing about it all the time. It is probably not gonna affect my cuddling any cause I only feel compatible with people who are not local and work a lot of hours, so far. Not that my cuddling is my primary concern
I think about Monkey and I think about Pox but never the two at the same time.
Oh my gosh, that is hilarious. I may still be laughing when I try to go to sleep.
If MonkeyPox actually make you look like a monkey, I'd be concerned. I'll just be extra wary of somebody who is suddenly craving bananas.
Rochelle Walensky said it spreads in the homosexual community.
Look at that cute nerdy monkey. Lol.
@Midnight01: It spreads in every group where people touch, monkeypox is like that. It just so happens that it's more likely for a test to spot it in people who're regularly getting tested to see if they have illnesses.
And yeah, it's more likely for you to pick up any illness—including the common cold—if you're running around swapping saliva with people.
Like the CDC says:
Monkeypox spreads in different ways. The virus can spread from person-to-person through: • direct contact with the infectious rash, scabs, or body fluids • respiratory secretions during prolonged, face-to-face contact, or during intimate physical contact, such as kissing, cuddling, or sex • touching items (such as clothing or linens) that previously touched the infectious rash or body fluids • pregnant people can spread the virus to their fetus through the placenta It’s also possible for people to get monkeypox from infected animals, either by being scratched or bitten by the animal or by preparing or eating meat or using products from an infected animal.
Monkeypox spreads in different ways. The virus can spread from person-to-person through:
• direct contact with the infectious rash, scabs, or body fluids • respiratory secretions during prolonged, face-to-face contact, or during intimate physical contact, such as kissing, cuddling, or sex • touching items (such as clothing or linens) that previously touched the infectious rash or body fluids • pregnant people can spread the virus to their fetus through the placenta
It’s also possible for people to get monkeypox from infected animals, either by being scratched or bitten by the animal or by preparing or eating meat or using products from an infected animal.
Genetic evidence shows this strain of monkeypox originated in Nigeria. It's not an STD—that is, it isn't spread through semen or via sex—it's just that when you have sex you touch and breathe on your partner a lot. HIV, now:
You can only get HIV by coming into direct contact with certain body fluids from a person with HIV who has a detectable viral load. These fluids are:
• Blood • Semen (cum) and pre-seminal fluid (pre-cum) • Rectal fluids • Vaginal fluids • Breast milk
Mr. 1776 there (interesting choice of hat) is an @**hat.
@Midnight01 , is there a reason you chose that particular video? Because that’s the worst video I’ve seen on the subject. I mean, it’s really bad.
Dr. Mike Hansen produces very factual, informative, level-headed videos on a number of health conditions. He did some excellent videos during the beginning of the COVID pandemic. Here’s his video on monkeypox.
The current outbreak in the U.S. has been primarily in the gay male community. However, diseases don’t care about your sexual orientation. It will spread wherever it gets the opportunity.
TL;DR
Misinformation. Monkeypox is not the new HIV. It's not an STD. Gay men (and those near them) are not the only ones catching it. This outbreak has been genetically traced to Nigeria, not Spain. Monkeypox is not transmitted via fecal matter. Sex works great as a transmission activity, but you don't have to have sex with an infected person to get it (just sit on a couch that's got blister ooze on it, say, or breathe into each other's faces for a while). Etc.
Anthony Brian Logan is an American conservative. See those flags in the background? Remember January 6th? Yeeeaah.
[Edited to add more links.]
Yes anyone can get monkey pox, but Men who have sex with men are currently deemed at highest risk of infection, with around 99% of cases reported outside of Africa this year among men and 98% among men who have sex with men. ABL is one of handful of YouTubers I watch.
You wanna know why a group that's commonly tested for disease is the group most commonly testing positive for this disease? Well, if the question itself doesn't give you a hint, try this on for size:
Why are so few cases getting detected? Testing. In many ways, the U.S. has dropped the ball on monkeypox testing. Across the nation, public health agencies are running too few tests — way too few, Osmundson says. "State officials are denying people testing because they're using a narrow definition of monkeypox to decide who receives a test. They're testing in only a very restrictive number of cases." ... "Infections have been largely found in men who have sex with men, who may typically seek care at a sexual health clinic," Nuzzo explains. "Those providers may be particularly well-educated now about monkeypox and may be more willing to send a specimen out for testing. But we may not be seeing that level of education and willingness to test with other health care providers, who see different kinds of patients. And that means we may be missing infections in different patient groups."
Why are so few cases getting detected? Testing. In many ways, the U.S. has dropped the ball on monkeypox testing.
Across the nation, public health agencies are running too few tests — way too few, Osmundson says. "State officials are denying people testing because they're using a narrow definition of monkeypox to decide who receives a test. They're testing in only a very restrictive number of cases." ... "Infections have been largely found in men who have sex with men, who may typically seek care at a sexual health clinic," Nuzzo explains. "Those providers may be particularly well-educated now about monkeypox and may be more willing to send a specimen out for testing. But we may not be seeing that level of education and willingness to test with other health care providers, who see different kinds of patients. And that means we may be missing infections in different patient groups."
[click any quoted sentence to read the full story on NPR.org]
I don't see how who's currently deemed most at risk has anything to do with it. Did we demonize old people and the immuno-compromised during the height of the Covid pandemic: "How dare they be what they are, their vulnerability to this disease makes them walking sources of it"?
It’s not “demonizing”. These are just the facts. Men who have intercourse with other men are virtually all the monkeypox cases in this country. Most people have nothing to worry about. If you cuddle gay men or bisexual men, you may want to be just aware. Other than that, it’s more fear porn.
Let me see if I understand what you're trying to say, @Midnight01.
You post a video claiming that monkeypox came from gay men having sex in a sauna in Spain, that it spreads through men having sex with men (no other method of transmission suggested or even implied), that the kids getting monkeypox were close to gay men and so dear me, he's certainly not suggesting that, but he just can't think of anything else, can he?
You post this video... and say it's not demonizing gay men. Interesting.
I think this is what we blunt types call "a lie."
I would be more concerned if they find it is as contagious as smallpox and transmitted the same way via respiratory drops as well as skin contact with pustules. Please read “Demon in the Freezer.” Also we have had many viruses like flu, colds, other coronaviruses (SARS, MERS) that we all should have been masking and separating for. Just common courtesy that only Japan and some other Asian countries were already doing. When sick stay home or mask up. I always masked up if sick and still having to go to work as to no infect coworker. Monkey pox is not a gay disease it just seems to be more prevalent in that community.
I found that video offensive very quickly in to it and didn’t finish it. It’s clear that this man wanted to villianize and blame one group of people. I stopped very early because i felt the twist coming, the background tells me everything i need to know.
Why is HIV said to be a gay disease? Is it not transmitted via straight intercourse?