I miss talking about my past and childhood, can anyone relate?

I've had a few "cozy" relationships and friendships over the years, mostly earlier in my life (I'm 38), where we bonded by talking about being depressed as teenagers or about our failed relationships. Because we liked each other and were interested in getting to know each other, we were naturally curious about each other. Sometimes we'd talk late into the night.

My friendships, cuddle friendships, and romantic relationships in the last several years haven't been quite like this, and I miss it. I hope I haven't lost my own curiosity, and that I can still receive it. Most people don't seem to expect to talk about their pasts and receive compassion, or hear about someone else's past and give compassion, even though there was a time when I would have considered that normal for a budding relationship or friendship. I mostly talk about my past in little bits in therapy, these days. I feel like we are taught (via therapy and self-help) that while it's important to recognize that traumatic experiences from the past take root in our body, it is best to focus on the present and future, not the past, and the positive rather than the negative. But I'm longing to express all the bullshit of the past to someone, that I didn't fully realize at the time or haven't said out loud, and I still have this idea in my head that getting to know someone can involve a lot of interested sharing about your lives (past, present, and future).

As I grapple with unexplained chronic physical discomfort, my intuition says that I need to give more thought to everything I've been through, and not just plow forward, somehow managing to function despite being spiritually depleted.

Does that make sense?

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  • I call ita "deep dive." I think sharing deep or personal stuff with someone requires a lot of trust and being on the same "wavelength." While this doesn't happen often, I do think it's awesome when it does. I find it usually works well with two types of pple: someone you have a close bond with or a complete strangers - I've found some nice online communities since Covid started.

    As far as finding someone to connect w, rather than actively searching for someone or the experience, I try to do the best work I can do to make myself open to that connection: meditation, introspection, reading, and other forms of self-care. I feel if I'm in touch with myself, then I can better make that connection with someone else.

  • @frankparker9 I know what you mean. Earlier tonight I was talking about my past with a close friend and I was sent a “cool gif” back after sharing something positive and special. All I could think of was yikes never sharing something with them again.
    It suck’s to be vulnerable like that. But in all honesty it just felt so good while doing it and I miss it too. Sharing the good and the bad and being there for someone is nice.

  • Yeah, when we were young, we had closer proximity w our friends and we were all forced to do the same things: school. We were innocent and more open. I feel the older pple get, they also get caught up in their lives and honestly usually are less cool.

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    I think part of it is when we are younger, even talking about ‘mundane’ events is probably interesting because it’s still new. But the same kinds of conversations later or having them too often might feel too rehashed?

    Additionally, it seems harder to make friends later in life. I wonder if the above comment is related to this.

    As we get older in life, we carry with us more scars and trauma - maybe at some level we’re less exuberant about opening up as we don’t want to risk getting unnecessarily hurt.

    Another point may be that as adults, we are expected to be mature, self sufficient, and have things figured out. So maybe others and even ourselves discourage us from getting too much into bonding over and fully opening up with depression. As teenagers and even in 20s it seemed more socially acceptable to be depressed or bot have things figured out.

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    Not sure, I’m just spit balling here.

  • [Deleted User]Btown (deleted user)

    My childhood was so long ago I have almost forgotten about it. Talking about the past can be cathartic but can also bore your friends.
    Many years ago a therapist suggested that I write a brief story of my life to basically get it out of my system. She then encouraged me to focus on the now and my future. I still have the story and read it at times and it soothes my needs.

  • I love these comments so far, thank you! 🥰

  • Things have changed. With technology and constant stimulation and connection and microwave speed mentality most people now don’t seem too keen on authentic, heart to heart connection anymore. I have noticed people have become incredibly flaky and lack loyalty. Cancel culture teaches us that people are merely objects to cast out when they displease us and to have very little investment into. Getting people to put their phones down to actually engage face to face feels challenging. We have exchanged the bulk of true relationships for virtual ones on social media which just isn’t the same. Idk. Maybe I’m just cynical but what I’m saying is I feel what you feel about missing depth and consistency in true relationships the way things were before technology creeped into every sliver of our lives and hijacked our brains.

  • @TheMidnightOwl Definitely some truth there

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    @cylee1180 That all makes sense, and that meme is hilarious.

    @Adorkabledoll Aw, I'm sorry that happened and was painful. It sound like you didn't get the connection (reflection, empathy, appreciation) you were hoping for.

    @sunnysideup That makes sense, on average, that people just get more burned and/or absorbed in adulting. To the extent I have done so as well, it really doesn't feel like me, it's a heavy and uncomfortable way to be! I'm casting some of that off right now, as I recognize that that's what many others have chosen.

    @Btown Thanks, that might inspire me to do something similar. In regards to boring your friends, on a related note, I've definitely encountered people who have this very evident need to talk about stuff from years ago in their life to anyone who will listen, whether they are interested or not, which I find unappealing or tedious. ACA (Adult Children of Alcoholics and Dysfunctional Families) has been a good space for this kind of thing (sharing in an appropriate container, and to be clear nothing has been tedious to listen to there for me!).

  • @frankparker9 No worries 😌, still smiley. It’s just cool to know that I’m not alone. So thank you for posting.

  • Also re: the meme, let’s not forget we are animals too! :)

  • [Deleted User]Btown (deleted user)

    No animals have been harmed during this discussion.

  • @frankparker9 Thank you for starting this real and awesome thread! I 💯agree and am the type of friend you describe to many. I belong that we all need someone that we can take turns talking to and listening to support each other. My abundant empathy assists me. Whether it was friendships, relationships or romantic partner, have shared this special accepting bond with some wonderful people (and open to meeting more awesome people that can benefit from this). Thank you again!🥰

  • @cylee1180 - love the meme. Reminds me of Why Zebras Don’t Get Ulcers.

    And reminds me of my bunny. She has a simple life. Eat hay, drink water. Eat veggies in the morning. Get a tablespoon of pellets in the evening and a teaspoon of rolled oats as a late night treat. She gets excited every time she’s given anything. She’s got hay and water available all of the time, that’s most of her diet, and yet she gets excited when I fill her hay rack. Oh boy! More hay! She dances when I give her pellets and I swear she’d kill her own mother for rolled oats. She spends a lot of time napping and just chilling out. Loves cuddles and strokes. Move stuff around and she’s curious as hell. What is this? She’s got a good life and she’s quite content with simple things - food, water, cardboard to chew on, cuddles. She reminds me not to worry.

  • @Babichev Love your rabbit!

  • Wow. @frankparker9 thank you for such a thoughtful and vulnerable thread. I appreciate you. 😊😊😊

    I think I better just spoil this because its long and maybe BORING!!! I love your bunny life @Babichev ....what a beautiful reminder.

    I have been pondering on this a bit over the last year and since I am OLDER than you, I have a bit of a different perspective especially with this new world of cuddles I have encountered.

    With new cuddle connections, I found myself sharing different portions of my world. Some so that I could talk about ideas, some so that we could find relatable experiences, some so that I could gather insight from their journey, but what I always found was the curiosity that you speak of.

    Because we liked each other and were interested in getting to know each other, we were naturally curious about each other.

    I see that you are in a relationship and also polyamorous as well as part of this cuddleverse. I imagine there are lots of connections and shares that involve different intimacy levels. I can relate to you in that sometimes you just need to "speak it" as opposed to having someone try to relate or fix or navigate etc.

    But I'm longing to express all the bullshit of the past to someone, that I didn't fully realize at the time or haven't said out loud, and I still have this idea in my head that getting to know someone can involve a lot of interested sharing about your lives (past, present, and future).

    I had this incredibly interesting exposure this summer in a class about relating. The teacher planned for each student to have a peer "listening partner" who had an amount of time to just LISTEN. There were boundaries like time and feedback etc. It was so enlightening. I got to learn a skill that first of all allowed me to be a better listener (instead of a problem solver) while FEELING compassion, BEING present, and COMMITING to a sense of zero judgement. It was so fulfilling in a way I have never experienced. I also found myself able to just speak about things with this partner without reservation or hinderance. IT WAS SO LIBERATING!!! I had no idea how I would feel because I always thought it had to be done within the confines of friendship and getting to know each other.... sort of like you expressed. I absolutely loved it and learned a new way to relate.

    As I grapple with unexplained chronic physical discomfort, my intuition says that I need to give more thought to everything I've been through, and not just plow forward, somehow managing to function despite being spiritually depleted.

    I hear you and feel a bit of the pain you are trying to make sense of. I think our bodies hold onto stuff and store it in places if we don't get it out. Whether its to a counselor, a friend, the sky..... If we keep holding stuff in, it does ugly stuff on a cellular level.

    While I agree with the premise that living in the past doesn't always solve the problems, I feel like it has to actually LEAVE your body, energy, whatever you want to call it in order to find healing. I'll have to find the name of the book that talks about that. "What your body is trying to tell you" maybe.... "Love Yourself"

    Thank you again for sharing things that are personal and all of the self-reflection happening here.

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