@stormydaycuddle - Not sure what you mean. That was my first time there.
@Chris04 - the practice of “tip sharing” varies greatly from company to company and probably state by state but I can only speak about Indiana. My daughter is a server at a well known, high end chain restaurant. At the chain she works for, servers keep 100% of cash tips left on the table but the majority of tips are paid on credit cards. Those tips are processed by the company then distributed with a percentage going to the server, a percentage to the host, and a percentage to the bussing staff. At her restaurant cooks are paid a much better hourly rate and do not get a percentage of the credit card tips.
I believe in tipping for good service, not as a means to supplement inadequate pay by employers. Yes, restaurants are a special case, but services like Uber eats or Starbucks should charge whatever it truly costs to provide the service, and that includes paying the employee a reasonable amount.
Now if I hire a service - barber, tour guide, etc - I will tip for good service, even though the price includes their 'wage'. I'll also avoid tipping when the service is mediocre, average, poor, or such. Likewise, if I go to a hotel and one of the staff is being extra helpful (helping me get luggage from vehicle to room for example), I'll tip them. Same for those nice red vest folks at the airport who help with luggage. No, strike that, ESPECIALLY for them.
But I'm not leaving a tip at Starbucks when all the employee had to do was pour me a cup of coffee that I doctor up to my own tastes. Nor do I ever expect to tip my plumber, electrician, or other professionals. And quite frankly, I resent being expected to tip in most places other than full-servie restaurants.
Tip culture is inherently racist and perpetuating slave culture.
@ClubSamwiches I'm gonna have to let that percolate in my head for awhile and see if I can understand it later, as I've never heard this before. Interesting perspective.
@Jubal - I do Grubhub and tips shouldn't be called tips. More like a bid for service. I receive an offer screen telling me the name of the restaurant, the total payout including tip, and the number of miles I'll have to drive. I can choose to either accept or reject that offer. If you don't tip, your food will likely sit longer until some desperate or new driver finally accepts it.
@Jubal tipping culture in the US has a basis in old railcars which where the firs to adopt this practice. They would pay the normally black worker who didn't have much other options for work a non livable wage and relied on the kindness of strangers to cover this
@Mike403 I guess poor Uber drivers don’t know how much they will make until the ride is over. If a tip is left dependent on quality of service, then it should be left at the end. Otherwise they should change the name of ‘tipping’ to bid.
@Jubal I don’t get how restaurants are a special case? Other than making waiter wage, but that law could just be chucked out the window in the past where it belongs, imo.
@sunnysideup - I guess it incentivizes them to be attentive to your needs if they want a good tip. Otherwise they'll only need to do the bare minimum to not get fired.
I've never felt "expected" to tip outside of restaurants. I tip in restaurants because I know the wait staff don't make anything and I would rather not see the restaurant close because they can't find staff. I have refused to tip a few times, if I had really rude wait staff or they lost my order or something like that. Otherwise, I put myself in their shoes and think about how badly I would need the money if I worked there.
I used to agree with the idea that it would be better to not have tips and just have tips automatically made a part of normal wages. However, I did some traveling in Australia once where tipping is automatically included for service workers. It was almost impossible to get service again after initially sitting down. I came to appreciate the US a bit more after that.
@mike403 I’ll can go get the links to all the previous ones because there are several. Most get closed because they disintegrate into fights. I’m sure there’s still one somewhere. I’m not saying there’s anything wrong with not wanting to tip a machine but uh…you’ve said it.
https://www.cuddlecomfort.com/forum/discussion/14338/restaurant-tipping/p1
This is the one you talk about it on.
https://www.cuddlecomfort.com/forum/discussion/comment/182443#Comment_182443
@stormydaycuddle - I found my comment. That was at a music festival that had a drink machine. This was at a normal bar where was my first visit to.
Kk. @Mike403 looked familiar. A while back.
@stormydaycuddle - It just made me bring it up again because I think it's crazy. Vending machines that sells snacks/sodas don't ask for tips so I'm confused why one does just because it sells alcohol.
@mike403 I understand. It is weird. Also, when you search beer on the forum you're name comes up most. hahaha. I am only saying this because I do want to know which beer is best for this Canadian bacon cheese soup I make. You seem like the right person to ask.
@stormydaycuddle - Well, I do like beer... lol. I'm going to a Grilled Cheese & Beer festival this weekend. Tickets to that is all inclusive including the food and beer.
I don’t understand this thread. What is tip “culture”? From my knowledge of tips, it’s a very basic yet often unspoken rule. If one is going OUT to eat, say a restaurant, one is EXPECTED to afford (look at you big baller, not eating at home I congratulate you) not only the price of the service but a small (10-20%) tip as well. If one can’t afford to tip, frankly one cannot afford to go out. And by afford, I mean without even batting an eye, without showing any indication of stress, any indication of one’s financial position or status, without accusing ANY restaurant staff of conspiracy theories that only make sense on a QAnon YouTube channel. If one is going to outsource one’s own cooking and then become an uneducated food critic like everyone seems to do, it would be better to not have that individual as a customer at all.
@WinterSoldierzz - You missed the entire point of this thread. This isn't arguing whether you should tip at a restaurant. It's about adding a tip when buying from an automated vending machine.
Is this automated beer vendor located inside of a restaurant/bar with kitchen? Because if it is, you should tip.
@WinterSoldierzz - If I order food, then yes I'll tip. Who am I tipping when I buy from a machine? No waiter brought me my drink. No chef cooked my food. Just somebody who changes the keg every once in a while.
I contemplated whether or not I should write a response or be like almost everyone and ignore such a ludicrous statement.
Tipping occurs in many cultures, so is it racist when I tip in Chinese restaurants or when im in China where they expect a tip? It’s so racist to assume and see everything in a western centric pov and think everything was invented here.
I remember when The African American Museum of History said traits of whiteness were being on time, individualism, hard work, nuclear family, progress, respecting authority. Firstly all of that is ludicrous and racist to say, and implying non whites don’t have any of those values? The museum was shamed into removing it from their website.
If you choose to, Tell me why you think it’s racist in your own words and not from where you read that it’s slave culture. I read the same thing.
@sudadupa - I never even brought race into this discussion.
@Mike403 You didn’t bring it up but @ClubSamwiches did in an earlier post about slave culture. @supadupa forgot to tag her.
Well again people come into a thread existing of a very simple question made by the OP and bring along their own agenda.
@Jubal @WinterSoldierzz (love ur name if its a wutang reference)
@supadupa I really don’t care for your “in your own words” tone. You aren’t my professor or any type of authority to demand that. You’re the one exercising willful ignorance when there are plenty of resources for you to research. Also my friend @BlackKalel has already loosely explained.
@Nina_Mitchell I think it’s different and probably more akin to tipping your masseuse or hair stylist. But where it’s similar is where either situation expects a tip (unless I’ve been doing pro cuddling wrong this whole time).
@WinterSoldierzz In addition to it being ridiculous to have to tip a machine, tipping at restaurants itself is bizzare. The bus boys get a very small proportion of the tips, cooks and other kitchen staff usually get none. The servers should just get paid like everyone else.
@ClubSamwiches so if someone tips you for a wonderfully experienced cuddle session will you refuse and say they are being racist? Anyway I won’t further engage. Just curious
@supadupa - There might be some history that I am also ignorant about. I'm not gonna read about it because I don't like to look at anything as possibly being "racist". We are all human beings no matter what the color of our skin happens to be.
@mike403 what was the color of the vending machine?
@supadupa reading is fundamental. I said the “culture” is “inherently racist” which “perpetuates slave culture”
I never said people who tip are racist.
Thanks for coming to my tedtalk.
@mike403 avoiding the fact that racism/colorism exists is your white privilege. Please educate yourself.