@GreatHornedOwl The "tweaking" I had to do was, from my perspective, ridiculous. The fact that I had to specify about a partner's cognitive ability speaks to how deceptive and manipulative people can be here.
Prior to that, me stating a partner being unaware negated me as a possibility is pretty damn cut and dry. But, as with all things, a duplicitous person will try to work any angle to meet their needs - or wants, I should say.
@Calibrate715 - I understand where you're coming from, but I was using a partner's cognitive ability as an example of a "special case" that should be taken into consideration. There are other "special cases" too. There are very likely men who are in the midst of bitter divorce, where the husband and wife aren't speaking to each other. There undoubtedly more situations that I haven't thought of.
I was trying to say that ones "rules" should not be completely rigid. They need to be sufficiently flexible to be able to allow for an international boundary running through the middle of a library.
@taco_libre - I'm sorry that we wasted so much of your time by forcing you to read such a worthless thread.
@jplemmon In regards to people flagging everything, I honestly would have thought the same but I am surprised to see there are actually fairly few flags coming in on these controversial discussions.
@Calibrate715 You are a great addition to cuddlecomfort and I've liked all your posts. Your posts on this thread in particular are extra good and you summed up the different member types here so well. I'm glad you have a good handle on all this.
@GreatHornedOwl The example you cited is a little problematic, because the spouse of someone in a bitter divorce is more likely to start screaming adultery if they find out their partner is running off to meet someone for hours at a time. That would be high on the list of married cuddlers to stay away from.
@WriterGF - You do have a point there,
Scroll back up, folks. I apologized for merging threads yesterday. I apologize again this morning. If you want blood, go watch Spartacus.
Whether I did or didn't recognize threads as parody versus serious discussion is mute now. They're all merged and can't be unmerged.
I'll point out that the subject of partner's knowing of one's cuddle wants/needs/acts is cyclical and comes up regularly, the bottom line being consent is everything here on CC. This is not the first nor last thread on these topics.
As in all forum posts and threads, if it interests you, participate. If it doesn't, then move on.
@mods. I understand. @Charlie_Bear Yep yep. Got it.
To play It safe I just dont tell any carbon based entity my secrets
Hi all, please refrain from attacking one another or baiting someone into an argument. This is a sensitive question asked by an enthusiast, and while I don't want you to feel like you can't speak your mind, just be mindful of how sensitive this topic is for some people.
@Sideon Not sure if you noted my previous comment, but not upset by the merge with my post. From what I'm observed of the moderators, they are fair and protect the principles of the site.
I didn't assume there was ill intent on anyone's part so no worries 😊
@achetocuddle Thank you hugs Your comments are much appreciated as well. I bet you're an awesome cuddler💕
@Calibrate715 - You're right. I'm quite sure that there was no ill intent. The moderators do their best to be fair, and to protect the principles of the site. However, they can be overworked, and do make an occasional mistake. When they do, it can be a bit annoying.
If anyone ever feels like I make a mistake, feel free tell me. I personally wish I had taken in to consideration some of the sensitive situations some here are in. (My mod comment is addressed to me just as anyone else.) My inbox is always open
@Charlie_Bear you're a real bastard who grinds my gears you know, but only second to that piece of work @Sideon 🤨
@pmvines OMG you are so right! I mean can you imagine putting those two in the same place at the same time? 🤔 Wait a minute.......
@pmvines Hey that's ok, as long as I'm second! But don't worry, there is still plenty of time for me to surpass Sideon in the "piece of work" department 🥰
@OhioMike 😳😅 🎰🎲🃏
@OhioMike remember rockem sockem robots ?
😂@pmvines these guys?
Its interesting how people can complain about flagging folks and free speech and then start flagging people and complaining about their posts when they say something that strikes a nerve with them. Come on children we can do better than that
Reported and reviewed. Removing image due to profanity. [Charlie_Bear]
my god…..
I definitely agree with your stance, yes as an enthusiast Cuddler, you should be able to pick and choose who your cuddling partners can be. Enthusiasts are not getting paid to cuddle with you, and so it is their choice just as much as deciding what to eat from a menu. Men should understand and respect that when it comes to what you are comfortable with, and what you are not comfortable with (like them not telling their partners about it)
For those men who find themselves in this type of situation, I can say that's exactly why you hire a Professional Cuddler, like Myself. That is the big difference between an Enthusiast and a Pro (No Offense Enthusiasts) Yes they get to decide and choose who, and it's their right to do so. Why? Well simply because it's a free service, but because it's free they can reject you for any reason they wanted to, as simple as that. Take a No, as a no, don't continue to harrass them, beg them, and lower yourself, have more respect for yourself and your value. Most Pros, like Myself wouldn't turn you down. My energy and service is also more directed and targeted at the other individual benefiting the most out of the session together🫂
Don't be a cheapskate and instead hire a Pro, like Myself. Of course not all pros are willing to cuddle with someone in a relationship or that are married, but for the most part are more accepting of it. The way I see it; I'm providing a service, yes it's a somewhat very personal service, but so is being a massage therapist for example. Though just like a Massage therapist doesn't ask the client if he or she is married, then why should I? Also I offer my services for men and females alike. The same reason I don't understand why do some Pros only cuddle with Men? if it's not sexual, correct?
Just my personal opinion, no offense to anyone's personal opinion or viewpoint. I respect we are all different. Spread 💞more Love and Kindness into this World, and we are all equal.
I believe the title of this got extended to add parents and pets, which now pertains to me, LOL. Last week I moved my dad in to caretake for him.
In the past, I couldn't have people over because my dog was extremely jealous of other women for some reason. Unfortunately, he passed from cancer in 2021. So now I've been able to invite people over. I started cleaning out my place about a month ago and I had a cuddle partner over once or twice before dad had moved in. Otherwise I kept it cluttered I think to keep myself sequestered when I had depression and grief I was not dealing with.
@Esmeralda9 - Don't be so quick to assume that men who prefer cuddling with enthusiasts rather than with pros are all cheapskate. Personally, I resent being called a cheapskate .
You may not understand the concept, but there's an enormous emotional difference between cuddling with a woman who's cuddling you because she's paid to do so, and cuddling with a woman who's cuddling with you because she wants to.
The pro is providing a paid service. The primary benefit that she receives is her payment. There is a difference in status between the pro and the client. In the case of enthusiasts, that difference doesn't exist. Both parties are of equal status. Presumably, they each derive the same, or very similar benefit.
Before all the pros get angry at me, I'm certain that most, if not all of you provide an excellent service, often with amenities that are way beyond those available whit enthusiasts, None the less, it is still a service, and to some men, that distinction is significant. I'm equally certain that some pros are good enough that they can make a man completely forget about that difference, but finding and identifying one such pro may not be easy.
@Esmeralda9 you make valid points, however implying someone is a cheapskate for not hiring you is an insult and only serves to perpetuate the negative connotations some have about pros only being in it for the money. I respect what you do and have several very close friends who are pros . We stay in each others homes and have gone on vacations and met each others family and friend groups so believe me when I tell you that I am an ally, even if I am not a client. However there are many reasons why someome might choose to not hire a cuddler, regardless of their finances. And those who cannot afford to hire a pro but otherwise would if they could, are demeaned by your comment . Whether you meant it that way or not, it leaves a negative imprint.
"...the big difference between an Enthusiast and a Pro... [Enthusiasts] get to decide and choose who, and it's their right to do so. Why? Well simply because it's a free service, but because it's free they can reject you for any reason they wanted to..."
@Esmeralda9 I believe anyone can turn down a cuddle, there is no obligation, paid or not.
I believe TxTom is right. A pro is not allowed to discriminate, but can reject anyone they want to, even if only based on a bad vibe.
I’m so cheap when I think of diamonds, I think of a pack of playing cards ♦️
GreatHornedOwl, If you felt personally offended by that word, then I'm sorry but how you feel about something is your own perception to you as an individual and you are entitled to that. I read your discontent about enthusiasts following that strict rule of no cuddling with someone whose partner is not aware of that and something about your own situation being different somehow than in most situations. I'm not going to assume is not because of the money, like you said, but rather because enthusiasts really do it for the love of doing it, correct? that's why you rather find an enthusiast instead of a pro. Ok, What if you found a Pro that also loved cuddling with a passion for it, then you wouldn't mind paying for it, correct? cause money is not the issue, right? What I'm giving you is a solution to solve your problem, if you don't care to solve your problem, then please don't complain. Then don't just also assume on your part that a pro is doing it just for the money, because there is some of us Pros, like myself included who do this with a passion, just as much as some of the enthusiasts. You know how they say that your passion is something you would do even for free, even if you didn't get paid, well that applies to me and I can vouch for that myself. At the same time we all need money just the same, but I have done sessions free of charge because it doesn't cost me anything for me to give this out to others and is something you can give as much as you want without ever running out. I knew an individual for example that had gone through surgery, still recovering and struggling with the process. This individual hadn't been able to work since his surgery, therefore lacked the financial means to be able to pay for a session, I offered him one instead, free of charge. Another individual was going through a very difficult divorce and the separation of his daughters, had to now pay an apartment where he now lived on top of the house payment on his mortgage where his wife was residing with his daughters. He also had to pay attorney fees, courts costs, just to fight for visitation and parental rights of his daughters. He was also battling Financial strains so I offered a session free of charge as well. Me personally I love what I do, and I do believe in the benefits of cuddling🫂, because I also experienced them myself.
By Cuddling we are spreading Love into the world🥰, specially in this time that we are living in, we need that more than ever❣️
@Esmeralda9 - You raised the issue of me having mentioned that my own situation is different. Since you obviously haven't read my profile, I'll explain it to you. My wife suffers from Alzhiemer's Disease. **Informed **consent is simply not possible.
As for being a cheapskate, even a session with an enthusiast will not be free for me, since I will also need to hire somebody to stay with my wife, because it isn't safe to leave her alone. . I have no doubt that, as you suggest, there are pros "who do this with a passion, just as much as some of the enthusiasts." How many pro will I need to try out before find one? I will also remind you that virtually all, not some enthusiasts are here for the love of cuddling. Why else do you think they would be here.
Finally, anybody who thinks that I don't want to solve my problem is a complete fool, and if the shoe fits .....