@Sooson Yep.
In some ways Yes, but in most ways No …
The man regarded as the god father of Artifial intelligence warned about the dangers, (after quitting his job), and says he regrets his work ..
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65452940.amp
There's always something right around the corner that's gonna wipe us all out....
Stay tuned for the newest craze. Film at 11.
AI is an idiot, lol. Have you tried chatting with ChatGPT or Bard? Nothing but misinformation and backtracking.
@ctjdrew - ChatGPT-4 is more reliable but it isn't included in the free membership. It's $20 per month.
@ctjdrew I had a talk with ChatGPT a few months ago and it showed more sympathy and had more actionable suggestions than most of my counselors. 😆
~ Sunset Snuggles
@ctjdrew that and asking it questions that get stronger answers requires kind of adaptive search skills. It does hallucinate but it’s still a good resource for certain things.
I am ready for whatever AI, PI, GI, TI, CI even VI. The only thing that intimidates me amd I will never be ready for us the IRS. Damn robots
@SunsetSnuggles perhaps counselors and therapists will be some of the first jobs replaced. Despite the fact that you may be telling your intimate secrets to Microsoft or Google. It just might be more helpful for less money.
There are many reasons I have no sense of hope.
This thread, and many of the people in it, reinforce that hopelessness.
@1_teddybear outside of how to market her stress back to her in ADs I’m not sure they care much. And I guarantee you marketing companies have already figured out stuff like that anyway in round about ways. My PLP is on the board of one such company.
@CharlesInWI including yourself there right?
@stormydaycuddle
Of course.
Honest self-awareness leads inevitably to hopelessness.
@CharlesInWI lol, can’t say you’re wrong.
@CharlesInWI That seems to be the same trap that Nietzsche fell victim to.
@1_teddybear
What? A sudden failure of his health at 44 (probably a stroke) leading to paralysis and lack of mental facilities?
I made it past 44, if only barely from a totally different illness issue…
@CharlesInWI Now see there? I was lead to believe he did himself. Just can't trust anyone's facts these days.
Understandable.
Yeah, ironically enough he was seemingly in a good place, life wise.
And then collapsed one day and simply never recovered.
@1_teddybear My counseling transitioned online in 2021, anyway, so Google probably already knows my sordid past. 🤭
Or maybe instead of the doom and gloom we could instead see the possibilities:
Instead of people being valued for how much they can produce, being reduced down to our productivity so that people who are less productive due to illness, disability, pregnancy, age, ability, circumstance, etc. are somehow less valuable as people.... we could instead start valuing people intrinsically simply for being. For the innumerable ways they impact our world through their interactions with others and the environment. For their contributions other than sheer production. If everyone's value is innate and unchangeable, everyone is equal from birth, we can finally actually achieve true equality rather than having stacked odds.
If we move away from humans having to work at production, what do they do with all that time? While some might become lazy and do nothing, the vast majority will do something. What might we create, explore, experience with all that time and energy freed up? What art? What scientific discoveries? We would move from an economy based on industrial production to one based on providing services.
If we're no longer cogs in the industrial production model and can now specialize into whatever our personal strengths dictate, how will we fund fostering those strengths? Universal basic income models that cover these scenarios generally provide for basic needs like housing, food, clothing, and basic education....but what about when we decide we want to do extra, be extra? We'll still need disposable income to fund those, so we'll still need jobs or some sort of funding put aside to cover it if we've evolved all the way to full communalism (NOT communism).
If AI and tech are taking care of production, and we have specialists taking care of the tech, and we have more specialists providing services for everyone, and we have innovators doing their thing because humans be humaning.... what's the next step? Transhumanism? Space colonization? Climate control? What do we tackle first?
@cuddlefaery I know this is so not what you were going for, but I couldn't help but be reminded of this comedy clip, while reading your post. 😁🤗
If kids use A.I. to do their research, their essays, homework; If we become dependant on A.I. to do our thinking, wont that atrophy the brain in the evolutionary timeline? The teachers wouldn't let us use graphing calculators in school so we would use our brains...
@CelestialTouch - School is meant to prepare us for a job. If tools such as calculators can be valuable on the job, they might as well teach us how to use them. They are only as smart as the user.
A.I. is a brand new technology and people aren't quite aware of its capabilities yet.
@SunsetSnuggles Spot on! Busy hands are happy hands.
Is this the forum to sign up for an i,robot?
@Jova114 Yes, it is. I recommend the M3GAN model. It's great with the kids.
@CelestialTouch then they'll have learned how to utilize the newest technology to its fullest in ways the older generations cannot, perhaps even hacking and improving upon it and changing the system they are growing up in - which is exactly what the younger generations are meant to do.
Education is meant to prepare us for our futures, not to teach us to continue doing things the way they've always been done. Or are we confusing education with indoctrination? Sure, we learn history and how to do things "the old way" because context is vitally important. We cannot learn from past mistakes or make improvements on existing systems and procedures if we don't even know what they are, afterall.
But the days of school existing to churn out carbon copies to go into factory production work are long gone and the U.S. education system needs to catch up with the rest of the modern world if we want out students and eventual adults to be able to continue functioning in a 21st century environment.
-your friendly neighborhood, overly verbose, teacher
Edit: side note - if you think we teachers cannot usually tell when a student has plagiarized a paper in its entirety, you're not giving us enough credit. And there's a huge difference between using the technology available as an aid vs. outright not doing any work ("cheating"). Using technology aids is not cheating, and accomodations are often vitally necessary for many students to even have equal opportunities as their peers.
The best use of AI for, say, writing a paper is to plug on your prompt, some outline of your ideas, let it give you something to go off of, and then rewrite what it spits out in your own words. I use this myself regularly to help make my formal writing more cohesive and concise, yet still sound like me. I'm still generating the ideas, I'm still writing the final product, but the AI is acting like an editor to filter and condense my ideas.
If a student were to just copy paste what an AI put out, it'd be incredibly obvious because the writing style would not match their typical "voice" or level of writing, just like any time a student plagiarizes. Plus there are tools for teachers to check for plagiarized content now.
@cuddlefaery really enjoying your contributions to the forum.
Tilly Norwood: the "real life" S1MONE.
AI is only as good as the input and source material it is given. Maybe it will replace jobs similar to how the robot arm replaced Charlie’s dad in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory putting caps on toothpaste (only for him to come back and make way more being the repairman for it) but for the most part it’s just going to be used as a tool like anything. The internet eliminated a lot of jobs, especially phone-based jobs, yet we’re all still here.