Are chickens a gateway drug? 😂

JohnR1972JohnR1972
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My daughter sent me a link to this video which claims owning chickens is like a gateway drug to conspiracy theories 😂

The video makes a few points about food supply and industrial farming that remind me of some of the threads I have seen here lately about nutrition.

  1. Are chickens a gateway drug to conspiracy theories?14 votes
    1. Yes! This guy nailed it
      71.43%
    2. No, it is all a bunch of coincidences
      28.57%

Comments

  • PrettyLuvPrettyLuv

    That was the first thing I noticed when I started with organic grass fed free-range eggs. The yolks are so much darker & taste so different. Although my gateway was a little different

  • achetocuddleachetocuddle

    @PrettyLuv Have you noticed the shells are thicker also? The free-range chickens probably get more calcium, etc. from eating bugs, etc.

  • BearBear

    I had friends who raised organic chickens, and I used to get fresh eggs. A nearby farmer had sheep, and occasionally I would get fresh sheep milk.

    There is a big difference between professional farms and local farmers. I don’t eat as healthy as I did it one time. Back when I was eating healthier I had better taste buds and I could taste the subtleties of different foods. Now I’m addicted to sweets and sugars and such. I won’t even go to the theories about that.

  • JohnR1972JohnR1972

    @PrettyLuv @achetocuddle @Bear
    My “gateway” had to do with a certain pharmaceutical mandate a few years ago but my 2nd step was buying eggs from a local farmer who raises chickens the old fashioned way. Bright orange yokes, thicker brown shells, and better flavor! From there on it was pretty much like the video 😂

  • BearBear

    @JohnR1972
    Getting local farmed raised eggs was the same for me. Then I started noticing a difference with cane sugar versus high fructose corn syrup.

    It’s hard and expensive to go through to really do things well. There’s always intentional communities, but then you have to live by someone else’s rules usually.

  • PeopleLikeUsPeopleLikeUs
    edited November 2023

    The perspective that animals are considered a conspiracy theory when viewed as a source of food (Especially protein) is a widely accepted scientific consensus, even though it's deeply entrenched in many cultures. Additionally, skepticism toward food additives is not really a conspiracy theory; rather, it represents a valid and common viewpoint often based on concerns about profit motives, transparency, and safety.

  • Mela_BMela_B

    Yes. Chickens are how I ended up with ducks and emus.

  • TNcompassionTNcompassion

    Ahem...

  • PrettyLuvPrettyLuv

    Yeah @achetocuddle

    My gateway was watching this episode on Dr. Oz about soy protein isolate and how it’s an endocrine disrupter in that it contains 1000 times more estrogen than what’s found in the soybean. That’s when I began reading ingredients. I noticed a trend had switched from a preponderance of “corn syrup” in the list of ingredients to this new ingredient called “soy lecithin.” Having understood what soy protein isolate was about, I began researching soy lecithin. Soy-soy. Found out it’s like a gel like substance that the cell could mistake for lecithin in its membrane since lecithin is naturally occurring in cells. I also found out that lecithin is similar in design to another gel-like substance: lipids whose basic function is to enable the entry of other things into the cell. I wondered just what those other things might be. In the meantime I searched for products that didn’t contain this “soy lecithin” and was surprised at just how rampant the ingredient was. Like as if it took over corn syrup’s role in the ingredients list of what would have otherwise been categorized as a healthy product. That’s when I realized soy was being monopolized in the food industry like corn was prior and decided to avoid every product that contained it. From there research into various ingredients just exploded.

    What that guy mentioned about bread is so true as well. I wrote something to someone here on celiac after doing a little research on bread. I never would have imagined that some of these flavors and yeast are being genetically created by none other than bacteria like e-coli. Imagine re-engineering e-coli to produce yeast. Do they honestly expect no one to have a reaction to it? How would anyone even know? That’s the part that upsets me the most. How no one can make an informed decision anymore on this kind of stuff.

    Sometimes I’ll binge on junk food as an “I don’t care” anymore thing and the stark effects of binging on it would become so apparent so quickly because I don’t eat that stuff on the regular. I’d have to immediately go into a cleanse. It’s so crazy what the food industry has become like, especially in regards to gmo.

  • JohnR1972JohnR1972

    @TNcompassion - That photo is making me hungry. I have eaten nothing but bacon and eggs for breakfast every morning for nearly 2 years (the only exception is occasionally if I skip breakfast or when I am traveling).

    @PrettyLuv - I am with you. I avoid sugar, seed oil, anything fried in seed oil, anything with any form of soy, food coloring (including soft drinks) anything GMO, and I try to avoid most preservatives to the degree I can. My pantry is stocked with a variety of nuts, locally produced honey, 4505 brand pork rinds but NO cereal, chips, pop-tarts, or other highly processed foods.

    @Mela_B - I grew up on a small family farm but we only had cows and a horse. What is it like raising emus? I don’t know much about them other than watching a short documentary a few years ago about Australia’s “Great Emu War of 1932” (spoiler alert, the emus won).

    @PeopleLikeUs

    skepticism toward food additives is not really a conspiracy theory; rather, it represents a valid and common viewpoint often based on concerns about profit motives, transparency, and safety.

    100% agree! 👍

  • achetocuddleachetocuddle

    @PrettyLuv Thank you for taking time and effort to post helpful info and thoughtful stuff in general. I think soy is bad news, except for the way some Asians eat it, and I'm not sure about that. Plus it tastes terrible. It's really disturbing how food and the supplying of it has changed.

    @Bear I eat a combination of healthy and junk, but enough healthy that I can taste subtle differences in food. The difference is worth paying for when you can, but it IS hard and expensive to do things really well. I drive to an adjoining county to pick strawberries and blueberries every year and then you are talking about an investment of time and energy that not everyone can do. It's like a part-time job to eat the very best you can, lol.

  • sunnysideupsunnysideup
    edited November 2023

    @JohnR1972 I wouldn’t say it’s a gateway drug to conspiracies, none of the things he said were conspiracies. It’s well known, I think, that factory farmed eggs are less nutritious than pasture raised (or better yet home grown) eggs. And the pharmaceutical Industry is too profit driven, doesn’t mean it’s all bad, but over relying on pharmaceuticals is a thing. It’s documented that certain lifestyle choices result in increased health risks which leads to over reliance in pharmaceuticals.

    I’d say raising chickens is more of a gateway drug to healthier eating and having a taste for quality ingredients/less processed foods. Homemade bread tastes like 10x better than the stuff in the store, and usually even tastes better than bread you pay extra money for at a bakery!

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  • PrettyLuvPrettyLuv

    Thanks @achetocuddle đŸ€—đŸ’—

  • BearBear

    @achetocuddle I need to change my habits. Right now it’s one day at a time.

  • Minestrone101Minestrone101

    I love this thread and chickens are cute.

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