Entitlement

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After reading a bunch of threads. Talking in a few. Getting different aspects of this cuddle culture and perspectives of individuals.

Is ENTITLEMENT of grown folks becoming an issue in society in your opinion?

If so how can that be canceled for good?

If not how can it be viewed on another term, in your opinion?

This is based upon how we are treating each other in the range of cuddle turned soft porn, usernames, messaging, CC rules, banning and blacklisting, conversations, etc....

Whats can be done or is it just ce la vie?

Im only asking because I do care as a human being about our responsibility towards one another and towards ourselves. This forum is actually a place where aha moments happen daily for a lot of people. When its moving in the right direction

Comments

  • [Deleted User]jimmylee (deleted user)

    @UglyDuckling before I step into the fray, and so that we are all responding on common ground, can you give a working definition of how you understand and are using the term entitlement?

    Thank you.

  • ReltvlyCanshesReltvlyCanshes

    You are absolutely correct about entitlement. I'm not sure i agree with the things you are applying it to but i think it's an issue. In the forums feel entitled to damn near anything, even being right. Entitled to force an opinion on others. Entitled to agency over others thought and words. Entitled to others behavior. I constantly notice lack of manners, respect and definitely the lack of appreciation. I may even fall victim to it, but consciously i try to curb my behavior. I try to be entitled to my own behaviors and actions, i hope they are appreciated. That is all

  • [Deleted User]justwanthugs (deleted user)

    Entitlement is not limited to CC. It is throughout society, and is also not limited to adults. And it is also not recent, but has been a problem for some years now. Parenting, lack of discipline, and society in general have all contributed to this issue.

  • TheFunCartelTheFunCartel

    Entitlement is nothing new. It’s always been around. The basis of the American Revolution was a fight against entitlement.

  • SolarisSolaris

    I think entitlement is a big problem. And lack of responsibility is entitlement's angry sibling. Each person (including myself) who has issues with these is throwing away their power. And they become less. And when so many people are less, society becomes less too.

    I'm using broad terms on purpose.

    I try to be responsible where appropriate, and set down my feelings of entitlement when inappropriate. It is hard and there are always layers that I'm not aware of.

  • IronicMaidenIronicMaiden

    Entitlement has always been around. Some people feel entitled by their skin color or gender or religion. Anything they can use to make themselves feel superior. As we push towards equality, these people need to find new targets, or at least be more subtle in their self-entitlement. Or they try harder to hold on to the older ways where their targets had to just take it.

  • SoosonSooson

    ..and some just feel entitled to troll and bate and stir the pot with no consequences. what else is new.

  • [Deleted User]gem7 (deleted user)

    Freedom of speech is an entltlement and has its challenges but I would not be in favor of censorship.

  • ReltvlyCanshesReltvlyCanshes

    Freedom of speech i believe to be a right, not an entitlement. But it has consequences. Eventually censorship is inherent. As long as it isn't forced we are all free to exercise it as we see fit.

  • pmvinespmvines

    Freedom of speech only becomes entitlement when we think that we are above reproach or criticism for said speech

  • dennis22554dennis22554

    I always find it amazing the people that troll the most rarely lack the courage to post themselves..i assume it's because the lack the courage

  • ReltvlyCanshesReltvlyCanshes

    Or lack of genuine thought @dennis22554

  • [Deleted User]gem7 (deleted user)
    edited October 2024

    Entitlement: The condition of having the right to something, such as a benefit or privilege.

    Right: A moral or legal entitlement to have or obtain something or act in a certain way.

  • IronicMaidenIronicMaiden

    Ignore the trolls. They're not entitled to your time.

    @gem7 I keep trying to read that, and end up going in circles. :p

  • ReltvlyCanshesReltvlyCanshes

    I'm using these definitions, it makes more sense to me.

    " A belief that one is deserving of certain privileges" Entitlement

    "something to which one has a just claim" Right

  • [Deleted User]gem7 (deleted user)

    @IronLemon Lol. No kidding. Do they mean the same thing or not? :#

  • UREverythingUREverything

    @jimmylee good question I actually paused to consider. Entitlement for me in this situation is to beleive in ones heart and mind progress is not meant for all people. But instead judgement is to exist in them hands of those who takes charge of things.

    It may be similar to webster idk

  • UREverythingUREverything

    @FunCartel_ I enjoy talking about the revolution. Do you think it was really the way those in power oitside of Franklin really felt or were most disgruntled it wasnt on their hands to be entitled in a new world?

  • UREverythingUREverything

    Unfortunately the 1st amendment has become and entitlement for companies due to the citizens united act which in the end is still up for debate on pros and cons. But I digress. Apologies lol.

  • UREverythingUREverything

    Forgive me for so many threads and posts. But im honestly going through some things that are testing my faith in people. After years of healing and growth these mean streets seem to be testing me to my soul.
    So yea I am using you all as a 12 step group.

    I truly appreciate all counsel and all words frim people I dont know. It helps me deal with the people I dont know and rekindle the positivity. I respect everyones outlook on these trivial things that are testing me. 🤗✌️

  • lovingspoonfulllovingspoonfull

    Getting back to definitions, I’d say entitlement and right are denotatively equivalent. It’s the negative connotation that’s been added to entitlements, from political overtones in the rhetoric, that have evolved the word and differentiated it.

    I would argue that it’s not really an entitlement attitude that’s the problem, but a self-centered one. Self-centeredness leads people to assume their wants are rights that supersede all those of others.

  • ReltvlyCanshesReltvlyCanshes

    @lovingspoonfull my perspective is that the word rights has the negative shadow you describe. I just offer that as a perspective. It's funny how words can be socially twisted by the common usage. It's very hard to avoid feeling it and excepting the thoughts of others sometimes. I for example have decided to use the term "affirmative action" for things like cooking and yard work or anything not involving people just because.

  • JohnR1972JohnR1972

    @UglyDuckling

    going through some things that are testing my faith in people.

    There is an old joke about lawyers and politicians that claims “99% of them give all the others a bad name.” Among “regular people” (the general public) it is probably more like 5-10% of them make people distrustful of strangers in general.

    A couple months ago I attended my 40th high school class reunion in a small town in Northern Indiana. I parked on the street for 4 hours right outside of the building where the reunion was being held. When I left the reunion and walked back to my car, my heart sank when I saw my trunk lid was open. I am guessing at some point during the evening, while dancing, the key fob in my pocket was accidentally activated to open the trunk lid.

    I had no idea how long the trunk lid had been open but I had a laptop bag and several hundred dollars of first responder equipment in the trunk that had been wide open on a dark street for probably 1-2 hours. It helped restore my faith in humanity that NOTHING had been touched in my trunk.

    There have been “lost wallet” experiments done where people would intentionally leave a wallet, complete with an ID and money, in public places to see if anyone would return them and a surprisingly high percentage do get returned.

    So to your point about having your faith in people tested, I completely get it. I still believe the vast majority of people in this country are good people who would either return the wallet (or at least not take the wallet) and who would help a lost child find their parent / guardian without harming the child. But “vast majority” does not mean “all”.

    I also believe the less benevolent people among our society are not evenly distributed from sea to shining sea and that some places (particularly online places) tend to attract them. The perception of what this site is all about probably draws a much higher percentage of people with bad intentions than what you would find in a random sample of people you pass on the street.

  • SeekerInVASeekerInVA

    ^ C’est la vie.

  • atomicbearhugatomicbearhug

    I honestly think that entitlement is just an extension of a lack of self-awareness.

    If you’re an empathetic person, and you’re aware of how your actions affect other people entitlement stops before it ever starts. Because you would feel embarrassed before you ever got the opportunity to act entitled.

  • [Deleted User]cuddlebuddee420 (deleted user)
    edited October 2024

    Of course it is. Also “entitlements” are an issue; hence, $35 trillion in debt and counting. Once you give someone something, it’s hard to take it away. On the behavioral side, people who expect special treatment are intolerable to deal with when you get in the way of their perceived just due

    Society often rewards bad behavior and people have become much more self-centered with constant technology use and diminishing attention spans. It’s a me me me culture

  • lovingspoonfulllovingspoonfull

    @BashfulLoner fair enough. Words and usage are always evolving. The only way I’ve ever seen those connotations overcome is being patient enough with others to get to the real meaning behind what they intended to convey. And right after I typed that the thought occurred to me that the quality of the communication probably helps too. By that I mean well thought out statements like a written essay, or face to face chats with all the other communication clues, can overcome connotations and implications.

    Not texts, chats, emojis, etc. that are brief and fired off without much thought.

    And @atomicbearhug i think you’re right. Empathy is a great help in moving people into a place where they actually value others. It takes a truly determined person to stay self centered when they understand other people’s reactions.

  • JohnR1972JohnR1972

    @lovingspoonfull

    the thought occurred to me that the quality of the communication probably helps too. By that I mean well thought out statements like a written essay, or face to face chats with all the other communication clues, can overcome connotations and implications.
    Not texts, chats, emojis, etc. that are brief and fired off without much thought.

    100% agree! 👍
    In my past life as an electrical engineer, I was once asked by a very non-technical person, “what exactly do you do”? I thought for a moment before responding, “I analyze and make trade offs all day long.”

    For example, I could design in a cheaper component to reduce the cost to manufacture a product but those “savings” come at the cost of a higher warranty rate and shorter life expectancy for the product I am designing.

    As a society, either consciously or unconsciously we have made a trade off with our communications technology. We traded a relatively small number of deep connections (close friends and family with whom we spent time, talked to on the phone, and wrote personal letters to) for a large number of very casual connections (people we may have never met who follow us or we follow them on social media and who we may send a short email or text, or comment on their latest post).

    In other words, the vast majority of society has traded…
    - quality for quantity,
    - truly being heard by a few for speaking to many,
    - depth for speed,
    - and intimacy for efficiency.

    I believe this is the root cause of so many problems we experience in life today from all various forms of entitlement to the loneliness pandemic and everything in between.

  • lovingspoonfulllovingspoonfull

    @JohnR1972 like the analogy. It resonates with me as a trained engineer working in construction management. You can’t perfect anything, you can build on a “quality spectrum”.

    But I think the social dynamic you’re describing is not new or an artifact of current technology, it’s more a function of available time and focus. People have always had to make choices about where and how to engage. The current social and technical framework just enables and underlines it in a different way.

  • JohnR1972JohnR1972

    @lovingspoonfull

    People have always had to make choices about where and how to engage.

    Agreed. On any given evening I can choose to spend time alone, or meet a friend one on one, or communicate with a few dozen people I barely know on social media, or post a video sharing ideas that will get tens of thousands of views from people I don’t know at all.

    Each of these options allows me different levels of connection with vastly different numbers of people. My point was that most people 20 years ago didn’t have the last 2 options available to them.

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