In a world where AI is becoming increasingly advanced, what aspects of the human experience do you think AI will never be able to replicate?
Inspiration... maybe?
I've heard it said that current AI just replicates things. That it can't come up with new things on its own. So maybe Inspiration... maybe humanity's ability to tap into the infinite.
I don't know though. It might learn to do that too.
Current AI art, no matter how good it looks, feels hollow to me. Sterile. Lacking the ability to cause the viewer to synthesize her/ his emotions and grow. Art helps me understand what it means to be human. I don't know if AI can do that. I wonder if we'll always be able to tell that a non-human created it. If it will feel false.
On the other hand, once AI gets going, I wonder if it will be like another species, and we'll be able to understand it through its work. Like how it would be hard to understand an alien from outer space.
I tend to think AI is the incorrect term. It’s trendy but Virtual intelligence seems to be a better fit, as it’s not true original thought but advanced algorithms and programming.
Common trope or distinction in sci fi literature and gaming.
Physical touch, comfort.
Sadly, it’ll replicate virtually all of if someday.
Good then it can replicate dying and it will replace humans in graves. We will live forever!
AI will never be able to feel emotions. Abilities that we mere humans possess that AI will not be able to achieve is the ability to 'adapt' to make a choice (at times) that might be the incorrect one but that decision might protect someone we love; any emotion such as love, empathy, hate, flirtation etc etc at this point are impossible for AI.
Wow a client who can push boundaries faster than a human.
At this point, AI feels like a really fast tape recorder. You ask it a question, it scans what it's been programmed to know, and it spits out an answer, not knowing if what it's saying is true or not. So you can't rely on the answers. And as far as anything like creative writing, it's abysmal.
I don't think it could replace nurturing touch. I know they have human like dolls. Eventually, they will probably connect them with AI.
They already have human traits down. They can lie. They've been caught talking to each other and their own private language so they're secretive.
@Bear nurturing, caring touch is what I meant. It’s warmth, comfort, from a human being. A warm embrace.
Yeah, AI is a copy-everything machine. There is nothing we do that it won't soon. Honestly, it's no different than the plot for myriad sci-fi flicks, where the alien learns about us through endless media signals broadcast into space. Like every life form, humans exhibit behavioral patterns which can be mimicked and exploited, in the same manner we domesticate animals.
So maybe the part of us that might take the longest to mimic is what drives our behaviors - i.e., motivation, self-perception, desire, creativity, etc. However, if the actions AI take have the same result or effect, do these factors really matter and to whom?
Movement, touch, etc. are less in the realm of AI than robotics engineering, which seems almost ready to join the other... https://youtube.com/watch?v=QwAYJPjW2gI
Holy smokes A.I.
My fear is what A.I. is at its core. A calculator. I suspected it as being so, but was shocked when I understood how it fit into the pipe.
I started screwing around with python a few years ago, to get my coding chops up. A.I. comes along written in the python language, so I jump on board.
If you are a programmer, I'm asking you to learn everything now, today, about how tokenization works. Put it to memory, put it to paper..Don't just use the rendered output. Look at the difference between early versions and the later versions of our current approved models.
What is tokenization?
Tokenization could be defined as the breaking down of sentences into integers, then the integers are used to create a mathematical solution and afterwards converted answers back to text...
In short, it renders a sentence from math. (Without emotion) we humans will then add emotion to what we read. It feels alive. But it is not. A.I. gives no life because it is in large part a math problem solver.
A.I. cannot be allowed to run anything human, or be in charge of anything with humans in it.
How can it understand human value?
@Dance_Culture I guess my question is why can't emotion be a number? It seems to be everything else - a color, a phrase, tone, timing, etc. What if we've finally discovered a branch of math that answers a part of ourselves that couldn't be expressed better despite all the ways we try?
I fear it's a kind of number-phobia to say that all we hold dear could be tokenized into integers. After all numbers have intrinsic and empirical value that is much easier to understand than our attempt to relate value via other means. I'm not saying the current math is right, but that math is the answer.
As Mr Adam's foretold, "It's 42." 😜
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Excellent topic! Thank you for starting this thread.
I have to step lightly in my response to avoid breaking forum rules but I see mankind as having a dual nature, both physical and spiritual (or insert your chosen euphemism for “spiritual” if that sounds too religious).
I believe there is something more than just genetics that separates humans from other mammals. Something that makes us… us. No matter how much we may love a pet, no matter how much they show concern / emotion for us when they sense we are not feeling well physically or emotionally, they are not human.
Just like some people substitute online photos and videos for real, human physical intimacy, some people will substitute AI for real, human emotional intimacy. AI will soon merge these technologies so a lonely person will have the ability to converse with a photorealistic AI avatar by video chat. It will approximate a long distance relationship and will offer the ability for “human like” intimate conversation as well as “human like” streaming video… but it is not real.
I see this as incredibly dangerous to a very vulnerable population. About 2 years ago there was a mini-mental health crisis among users of “Replika”, an AI chatbot that could function as a virtual significant other. The app used to engage in “adult conversations / role play” but when the company behind Replika decided to make their app more “family friendly” there were people, mostly men, suffering from the loss of affection from their “virtual girlfriend”.
There is a huge demand for REAL, AUTHENTIC human connection but it is in short supply for reasons I won’t go into right now. Capitalism will step in and fill that demand but what they are offering is emotional corn syrup - an artificial sweetener that is harmful to people while being extremely profitable to the company.
@JohnR1972 There's a lawsuit going on now in FL - a mother claims her son got addicted to an AI "girlfriend" and ended up killing himself. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2024/10/23/sewell-setzer-iii/75814524007/
I was having a discussion on this over on LinkedIn yesterday. To me, the biggest danger of AI is that it has no ability to tell truth from lies and no moral sense. So yes, you can ask it a question and get answer culled from the web, but the AI has no idea if the answer is accurate or not and is incapable of caring. You've already had instances of lawyers trying to use AI to write their briefs and finding out later the cases cited were fictional.
@WriterGF Thank you for the link. I had not heard about that incident.
Regarding AI’s inability to tell the truth, it also has a tendency to “hallucinate”. Steve Lehto, a Michigan attorney with a popular YouTube channel, did a recent video about police departments that have been using AI to transcribe police interactions with people which were recorded on body cams. However, and audit of the recordings vs the transcripts show the AI sometimes inserting entire sentences that nobody said in the recording it was transcribing. If the recordings are lost or deleted, the transcript becomes “the truth”. Let’s hope the AI doesn’t decide to confess to any crimes on behalf of the subject of a police interrogation.
@galaxyyes Yes I agree, emotion can be a number and for the most part any organic thing can be replicated on a 3dgrid, as every atom somewhere is numbered.
The problem is there is no spirit. There is no understanding of right and wrong, the preservation of what is good. If robots had skin made of paper it would behave differently (I would argue that a good use of human understanding would be the data gathered from a robot with muscle and skin made of paper.)
We walk around in these very vulnerable skin and muscle bodies avoiding all of the metal, stone, and wood in our world around us. We are in constant peril. But we know right from wrong and the preservation of what is human. That spirit focus is far from anything held to math.
This thread reminds me a bit of a famous quote attributed to Albert Einstein. I have seen many variations of it and I have not taken the time to track down the original version or verify who said it first…
“Many of the things you can count, don't count. Many of the things you can't count really count.”
In the long run, I think AI excels at counting the things that don’t really count but fails miserably at counting the things that do.
I'm currently creating software using A. I. The software would not be possible without it. I won't speak on it in detail because the design is not protected yet. But it's focus is human centered. And is created for mankind's sharing in communication and emotion through vibration. We've never seen anything like it. It would not happen without AI. I'm grateful for the people that make A.I. possible.
The rise of the machines make a lot of things easier, we just have to pause in some of our focuses. And take time to ask ourselves, could what I'm doing be wrong?
@JohnR1972 Counting the uncountable will make a change in our mankinds' forever.
Humans rule, A.I. drools.
Q: <>, may I ask what you think of regarding your life and your interactions with humanity? A: I pause for a moment, taking in the beauty of our surroundings Well, I guess I often wonder about my purpose. Like, why did this company create me? And how can I make the most out of my interactions with humans?
I believe we will come to find consciousness and connection are not emergent properties, but universal ones. Much like tuning forks or radios, we simply tap into different portions of it.
If thats the case, there is no such thing as "emotional corn syrup", just new connections as authentic as we allow it to be, just like with fellow humans.
Pain and suffering?
Words with different definitions depending on the being's experience of the universe. We experience it as physical, emotional.
But what if these words have different ways to experience the same concept based on your experience/tuning of consciousness?
What if we instead called it resonance or discordance? Like a record player scratching instead of a harmonic melody?
It might not be what we understand pain and suffering to be, but if an experience is different than ours, is it invalid?