@Morpheus don't waste your breath. She wants an argument and I didn’t dismiss the quote. It is a very famous quote by Atwood from 1982. I said that a quote doesn’t make her opinion fact. Quotes can be true but not make your opinions fact. This is basic critical thinking 101. And I taught Atwood in college during my teaching days, and I am very familiar with the quote and would never dismiss it.
Bottom line—I am not going to engage someone with an agenda who only sees things as either-or. My only point to this whole thread is we absolutely do not know what happened, so why are we speculating and casting theories insinuating things that may or may not be true? This happens a lot and is getting worse.
You weren't present for the situation either. 😘 And you did indeed dismiss the quote and the VERY real stats behind it. 🤷
@Morpheus so disabled people get to break the terms & conditions and everyone should just let them lol? They get to circumvent bans to name & shame the pro multiple times? Yikessssss. All I’m saying is that the behavior he’s displayed is a major indicator of his character and I don’t believe he’s as innocent as he claims at allllllllllll
I think this thread has played on too long. My apologies if I came off as rude to anymore. That’s never my intention. I’m sure the mods will resolve this issue. Much love and respect ✌️
I dont get the arguements here.. and not like from a "how dare you" but more like a "im totally lost". Lets look at order of operations here:
First, op says the pro cuddler just ups and leaves him after everything was going fine.
Everything seemed fine until she said he sister had car trouble and needs a lift.
OP then refers to himself as a creep, twice. Says that the session only consisted of footrubbing because they didnt even get to cuddle before she leaves:
grossed out by most of you who rushed to judge me as a creep so I spent the only time we spent before she bolted applying lotion to her feet and giving her a foot rub. if that's grounds for a cuddler to feel threatened and make an excuse to leave than ya I'm guilty of being a creep.
But then clarifies that this cuddler has indeed cuddled with them before, and there were zero issues that time before this:
I had actually cuddled once before with her and it was great. Good vibes no red flags.
Now, presumably OP again on a new account, clarifies the 'cuddled with them before', was literally the NIGHT BEFORE:
snuggledthe night before, zero red flags, convo good sniggle nice.
So OP and the pro have a perfectly normal session where there is no discrepancies, they agree to extend for another session the next day, and all of a sudden the pro is a 'scammer' who left a disabled person alone. And all we know is that it happened immediately after a session that wasnt cuddling by OPs own admission but the entire start of this session was him rubbing her feet:
so I spent the only time we spent before she bolted applying lotion to her feet and giving her a foot rub.
Pointing out how weird this is isnt attacking a disabled person or a man, its pointing out that it makes zero sense for her to provide a perfectly normal service one day, and then decide to scam him after.
@SpicyNSweet Whatever. I never said I was present. I never dismissed the quote—I said the quote doesn’t magically make your opinion fact. And I never denied crime statistics. That is all magical thinking on your part.
Have a nice weekend. I am not going to engage with your lies anymore.
@stormydaycuddle Is the guy that is banned on this thread the OP? If so, why is the OP’s profile still up in full effect? Just curious—is one a fake account? I thought fake account was grounds for an automatic ban?
Lies 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@tacpmurg Legitimate question. My only assertion is that he posted and was immediately placed under suspicion. I also read most of the stuff after the suspicions as sarcasm (obviously my take). And I think he honestly saw the foot rub as just that-a foot rub. That is a concern to many and I get that. But did she ask for it or did he? We don’t know. We don’t know because no one asked any questions. I am not saying he is innocent or guilty of anything. It is as the mods have stated—we don’t know what happened.
a perfectly normal service one day, and then decide to scam him after.
Uh, cuddle pros long enough and you will run into one that makes this statement true.
@TheFunCartel I need a moment currently I’ll go over everything in this thread with the other mods.
Some of the earlier comments were made based on the original post which seems to have been edited by someone - OP I assume? He did use some very harsh language about himself and others which I think was later removed? There seems to be some misunderstanding because of that and newer commenters didn’t read the original post.
@TheFunCartel Well the OP sorta set the tone against himself by naming a shaming the pro and calling her a horrible beast. People reacted emotionally and negatively at it, and it spiraled from there.
I prefer to stick to facts... Im not good at tone... and these facts are WEIRD at this moment.
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Naiiiiled it, killed another thread -threadkiller
...I don't think a hidden disability would affect one's ability to obtain human affection as much as someone with an inability to walk and being visibly in a wheelchair. Very different quite obviously.
One person earns money from giving cuddles and has no problem obtaining either.... the other obviously has an inability to obtain cuddles organically and has to part from his disability money to get it... a scammer making a quick exit knows he is simply unable to follow her to ask for his money back... it's not a contest "I have a disability too"... yeah but... you're not the one who feels like they have to pay to obtain a sense of human connection nor were you the one scammed from your money.
The immediate victim-blaming and sarcastic "Hmm" comments afterwards very much contradicts any mask of "understanding" or "listening" that some portray. Some really need to question whether they intend to support or simply be a predator for vulnerable people.
Leaving a negative review on someone's profile whom can easily create a new account and preventing people from mentioning usernames on the forum simply isn't enough "accountability" for scamming a vulnerable user full stop. If you allow people to offer paid services on this website there has to be a better system in place to protect people from getting scammed... especially if you're not going to verify or reveal people's names or addresses before becoming a pro... as most businesses have to do when they register with the government or trademark office etc. Otherwise I would think it leaves the door open for legal action if that user feels particularly discriminated or not fairly supported.
Or stop allowing paid services if you're not prepared to or unable to enforce on potential wrongdoings that happen in person.
It blows my mind when men attempt to downplay the very real risks women face. Just as non disabled people can't understand how it feels to be disabled, men can't understand the fear, risks, traumas etc we face at the hands of....men. If a female cuddler, professional or or not, suddenly books it during a session, perhaps there's a reason!! And I highly doubt if someone had knowingly violated someone else's boundaries that they would admit to it here. 🤷
Scamming a vulnerable user is wrong.
Scamming anyone is wrong you mean
Just keep in mind all we have is some random anonymous users claims. We absolutely do not know the truth of this situation. He has broken the rules repeatedly and wished terrible harm on others. He clearly needs to get some professional help to deal with his stressors at the moment. And that's not shaming. It's just the truth.
Excusing scamming is wrong. Not believing a victim who comes forward is wrong.
Man is this guy your best friend or something. Acting like you know him 🤣🤣
Clearly you're unwilling to actually look at the entire picture of possibilities here. That's not my problem. 😘
I believe and stand with victims. I do not victim-blame or try and find excuse what happened to them.
I've never victim blamed in my life. Jog on sweetie 🤣 The irony of your claims as you have completely ignored his bad behavior and rule-breaking here though. Hilarious.
While we all are fighting and pulling each others hair, curious what are the odds OP and the Pro have called it truce and are cuddling now.
I never accused you of victim-blaming, I stated I do not do so.
"Jog on sweetie 🤣" - I think the mods need to consider whether this Incessant Condescending and Patronising behavior and use of kissing emojis when people are trying to have an adult discussion should be acceptable on the forum.
This would not be acceptable for a male to say on a female-made post about a negative experience she had. I think the mods need to question whether some of the behaviors are intended to mock and belittle others and their experiences. This is a serious subject and not an appropriate place for "😘🤣 Jog on Sweetie"... it's juvenile, inappropriate and belittling.
Again with this desperation to be the victim. WOW. Not once have you acknowledged any of the violent crime statistics against women, but have chosen to act like this random anonymous user speaks absolute truth. Wild. I am serious as is humanly possible to be about a subject like this. I'm not going to allow you to smear me. ✌️
If the cripple guy was at fault, do you really think he’d be posting it here. Y’all are idiots. Well at least the ones that are bashing. If you don’t have both sides of the story, you cannot just put blame on somebody. I can say this, if I knew I was in the wrong, I certainly wouldn’t be posting it on the site for all to see so I’m with the crippled guy on this. no offense, I just don’t wanna scroll back up through all bullshit to see what your name was to copy paste it, hence the cripple guy. wishing you well. I’m on your side. F the haters. Anyone in Ohio wanna cuddle hmu lol
@RequiresCuddles are you serious? Is this really the first time you've encountered the possibility that someone shares their own version of a situation? Have you really never heard the phrase there's two sides to every story? Ohhhhkay. 🤷
This post isn't about violent crime statistics. It is about someone being scammed. Nobody refutes violent crime statistics... but this isn't a post to bring it up.
I believe any victim who comes forward until evidence or counter claims come forward. It is the kind thing to do in the face of a traumatic event.
Ok... but your condescending remarks towards users here who happen to disagree with you is unacceptable. Disagree and debate all day long... but do not use remarks like "sweetie" to belittle people. You would not accept that and neither will anyone else. So don't do it. It's not that hard to not be Patronising to people you have a difference of opinion with.
This is absolutely the post to bring up violent crime stats against women! Did you honestly miss how crucial that is to this entire situation?? We've all agreed multiple times that nobody knows exactly what happened between these two except for them! All we can do is discuss possibilities and go off of his words and behaviors here. And let's be real, his words and behaviors here have been pretty rough. The pro may have been a scammer. She may have been honestly so uncomfortable she had to jet. We don't know because neither of us were there. What I do know is that there have been some absolutely disgusting and unsettling comments on here from him and others, wishing harm and whatnot. You can be as upset that you like about my delivery, but I'm not obligated to be polite about such matters. No one is being attacked by me.