No one wants to do all that math.

VibeSeekerVibeSeeker
edited October 5 in General

If you're a pro on here Just figure what you think your time is worth and include it in your hourly fee. No need to add deposits, mileage charges ,booking fees etc. your clients just want to pay you and have a cuddle without having to go back to math class. Just saying.

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  • SunsetSnugglesSunsetSnuggles

    Deposits are often only for new clients or clients with no karma. Mileage charges are only for people over a certain distance. They don't apply to everyone, so they cannot be in the base fee.

    ~ Sunset Snuggles

  • JessAZJessAZ

    As a pro cuddler, deposits are there for an obvious reason and that's why some choose to do them. They aren't extra either and are credited towards your session.
    I do hear you on the other things though that it might just be nicer with a flat rate and not all those little amounts to add!

  • TheFunCartelTheFunCartel

    If you don’t like the way someone is charging or how a session is itemized, then just choose someone who doesn’t. Most pros are a flat rate unless you are asking them to road trip or come to a livestock slaughterhouse to cuddle. Then questions will be asked, money will be asked for, or clients will be blocked.

    In reality, two people coming together for a session has unexpected situations and circumstances that are fluid in many instances. Ask any long term pro and they will tell you some situations that you probably never imagined.

    Because I have the freedom to choose whom I want to cuddle with, I don’t get caught up in how someone charges. I will admit I shake my head at some profiles that have 100 different tiers of pricing and deposits, but that’s their choice not mine. I definitely have my preferences, but if they don’t fit my preferences, I move on.

  • MelNYCMelNYC

    A deposit is not an additional charge. It’s simply a percentage of the session fee paid upfront. Personally, I require payment in full at the time of booking, with a generous cancellation policy, because I’m not willing to reserve hours of my schedule for someone who may cancel at the last minute. Others choose to require only a percentage upfront. Either way, it’s not an additional charge. It’s quite literally what you’re paying for the session. If you’d rather they not charge a percentage, you can avoid the math by simply paying in full at the time of booking (provided there’s a cancellation policy).

    My base rate is $150/hour with a two-hour minimum. If someone wants a shorter session, or wants me to travel to them, that impacts my time and schedule differently, so my rate changes accordingly. This really isn’t an unusual concept. You encounter variable pricing constantly because the circumstances of a service affect what it costs. I don’t think most people are nearly as troubled by basic math as you seem to think.

    If a provider clearly communicates their rates and fees upfront, the client can decide whether they’re comfortable with them. That seems considerably simpler than telling professionals how they should price their own time.

  • VibeSeekerVibeSeeker

    Maybe. Thanks for the insight.

  • CuddlesWithCatCuddlesWithCat

    I think it’s smart as heck honestly

  • [Deleted User]DaveLaughs (deleted user)

    To be fair, mathematicians probably need cuddles too

  • FreeandfitFreeandfit

    I hear you VibeSeeker. I just stay away from those pros who itemize, have 2 hour minimums, want deposits, so on and so on. I get it from their perspective as clients can be flaky and they need assurances. But trust me, pros can be just as flaky too. TRUST ME.
    So just go with the ones that make booking simple, as they get the repeat business in my book. But also respect the ones that do it differently. Just don't let their way of doing things bother you and move on to the next. But make sure be a good client always.

  • MonkeyNeedsAHugMonkeyNeedsAHug

    Vibeseeker does not speak for me.

    Pricing can skew toward the simple or it can skew toward fair.

  • VibeSeekerVibeSeeker

    @freeandfit thanks . I guess it's cuz I wasted time booking with some before and after I do they tell me about some add ons after the fact.

    If it's listed to begin with then I generally won't waste my time

  • CuddlesofcuddleCuddlesofcuddle

    Hey buddy, i don't dig doing the math either! Ughhh so annoying 😑 but I promise you friend sometimes it's crucial to a pro and their time and schedule. I don't ask for deposits but check this out... I bought my bus ticket on my own, the ride had no ac and was 105° degrees inside almost the entire 5.5 hr drive... I arrive and my cuddle doesn't respond. My return bus wasn't for another 7 hrs. I waited in the heat at a 711. I had my cuddle clothes with me and a whole cuddle set up I was going make possible on the beach ⛱️ 😩
    Supplies and bags galore. I was only cuddling for 3 hrs and my travel time was much more than that.
    Did I put myself in that position? Yes.
    Did I learn from it? Yes.
    But common did I deserve that 🤧😭
    Shoot. Nobody legit does.
    Math and fairness will protect me with anything like that in the future.

  • TxTomTxTom

    The United States ranks around 30th globally in K-12 math assessment. And it's probably not much better among adults.

    We need all the practice we can get.

  • TrustedArmsTrustedArms

    @VibeSeeker I get why you’re frustrated. I once had a cuddler tell me 30 minutes before our session that I would be responsible for her round trip Uber. It’s very rare that I have experienced anything like that, but I definitely appreciate knowing if there are going to be any additional charges prior to booking.

    One thing about mileage is that if it’s included in a Pro’s rate, they lose 15% of it. That’s not how mileage works anywhere else, so I actually consider that to be a fair, separate fee.

    All of this factors into why my preference is to have Pros I regularly cuddle with so we are both on the same page. I hope your next cuddle makes up for your last one!

  • alyhugsalyhugs
    edited October 7

    Alright pros, you heard it here first; raise those rates! 😜 A little math can be a great filter. Love that it’s not for everyone. 😂🤍

  • VibeSeekerVibeSeeker

    @Cuddlesofcuddle sorry that happened to you. Glad you're more aware now.

  • AuthenticLucyAuthenticLucy

    As a pro cuddler who does not host and drives to clients or is flexible with allowing them to book closer to me to reduce the travel fees, I think it makes sense to charge for travel fees and booking minimums. Because if I have to drive 30+ miles out, the cuddling session itself should be worth the hours I am driving to them. And to do a flat rate of what a cuddling session is worth...and to apply it to everyone can be disapproprotionate. Not sure what state you're in, but gas is about $6.30 over here, and that alone can be very not worth the drive for me to book the client if I didnt include the travel feels or booking session involved.

  • GroundingLightGroundingLight

    I think @VibeSeeker was trying to express that clarity up front or on the profile should be standard without making things complicated AFTER the fact.
    Like surprise!!! I’m also charging you for my jammies, the meal I ate before I came, my shampoo to wash my hair before the session and the deodorant I put on so I smell nice 🤣🤣🤣
    I know, I’m being extra… but his point is still valid.

    Clarity is key and it goes both ways.
    Nobody likes to be blindsided….
    🤷🏽‍♀️ IMO

  • VibeSeekerVibeSeeker

    Bump

  • AuthenticLucyAuthenticLucy

    @GroundingLight yes I think transparency about prices should be on the profile and said in messages but also someone can still do all that and somehow some clients will feel blindsided because they didnt read their profile or skipped over that or whatever. I think there is a fair share of flipflopping and blindsidedness on both parties.

    But I 100% agree that everyone should be transparent and upfront about everything when it comes to costs, services, and putting the numbers in before actually accepting the proposal.

    I have yet to implement a square payment but I am considering doing that for security deposits for new clients only, but i think setting that up and seeing how a lot of clients prefer not to pay up front before the session starts because they fear of being stood up, is also valid.

    The previous cuddling website I came from required a deposit from clients to book with pros. But the deposit was only for the site's % and not the security of depositing for the pro to get their income as well.

    I think if CC implemented a system that permitted people to book through the site and pay for full session that the site holds, then if either one of them broke the rules or stood them up, then the payment can be returned to them etc but that would be more receipts people have to prove etc.

    So I can also see why CC may not want to get involved that way.

  • KatotaKatota

    having to go back to math class.

    I hear calculators are much useful and easier to utilize nowadays! 😁👍

  • SpicyNSweetSpicyNSweet

    @Katota it's amazing! We have them in our pocket these days, despite what our math teachers used to claim💀