What a strange conversation

edited June 2019 in General

Who in their right mind thinks inviting someone to meet for a last minute plan. Or any plan for that matter. Which they respond: “no thanks.” Then calling them a vulgar word for their right to refuse: helps build a foundation of trust, and comfort?.

This man asked for my picture prior. Which I explained I don't share a picture. If I feel a connection with someone then, I video call with them.

I offered him* to add me on Whatsapp, or Google hangout* which the latter, I said he most likely already has on his device. He said he doesn't use whatsapp, and to just text him. I explained I don't text except with rare, and few exceptions. He simply laughed it off, and carried on with trying to meet me. The relevant conversation with sensitive details removed is in the comments.

To any man/person that gets hostile/aggressive towards women/ for first of all exercising their right to refuse: shame on you.

Second, it does NOT foster any comfort, nor a possibility that she will want to get with* you. Maybe with a few exceptions, such as if she has a very low self-esteem. Or she doesn't know any better. In which case, still shame on you for trying to take advantage of that fact, and for disrespecting her!

Some times it's men/people like this that then go on complaining about not getting cuddles, and no woman wanting them. Don't be nice to the point that you are a door mat. Though, don't be a misogynistic, entitled person, either. At the end of the day, you are not entitled to women's bodies, nor company. You are entitled to nobody's!

Personally, I don't see a point in going silent on someone I do not wish to talk with, or meet anymore. Except a few cases. Though, unfortunately, some of us women/ are made to feel like going silent on any man we fall out of connection with. Or whatever, is better: for fear that he might get hostile/ at our rejection. No matter how kindly we reject.

I will always continue to be direct with others. I have also met men who I rejected for all kinds of reasons. They took my rejection well, and respected my right to do so. Many were also understanding. I think men/ like them deserve a direct response. Though, at the end of the day, even that response itself: nobody is entitled to.

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  • Conversation:

    Lovelight: No... Want to meet in public?

    Them: Yes I do where do you wanna meet ?

    Lovelight: I don't know, yet. You can add me on Whatsapp: number

    Lovelight: What's your number?

    Them: I can text you I don’t have what’s app

    Lovelight: What's your number? I don't text except with rare, few exceptions.

    Them: their number

    Lovelight: We can chat on Google hangout. :)

    Them: Just text me lol

    Lovelight: No... I use WhatsApp, or Google Hangout only. You most likely already have the latter installed.

    Them: Neither lol

    Lovelight: Tell me about it.

    Them: Loll
    05/06/2019 06:48 pm

    Them: Want a huggle
    07/06/2019 02:26 pm

    Them: Yooo
    09/06/2019 07:31 am

    Them: Hey let’s meet up today
    09/06/2019 07:57 am

    Lovelight: No, thanks.
    09/06/2019 11:38 am

    Them: Why u being a ______ (vulgar term)
    09/06/2019 11:51 am

    I also think said person, and others alike need to work on their communication skills. Though, most of all, they need to work on their character.

  • I think you need to learn to pick up quicker when someone is playing you. He had decided by the second lol that he was not going to meet you because you would not meet him on his own terms. The rest of the conversation after that was him messing with you. Just my take on it. He was definitely in the wrong, but that conversation could have been shut down sooner.

  • @HugsAndAttitude after the fact, I do spot a point. Or two that I could've stopped/rejected at. Though, I think I got caught up with trying to make things work, and that he may have missed a point, or two I was making. As well as him giving me hope, and seeming to show interest.

    Though, the bigger issue is that rejecting at times leads to hostility/aggressiveness, etc. Which, I highly doubt even if I rejected a few points earlier: would have changed the fact that said person/others would respect me/others. Unfortunately, it's an issue that goes beyond just me, and this person. So, I think it is important to bring it to light.

  • I think you should have said WHY in your second line. As is, it could seem you were indecisive about where, when your intended meaning was IF you'd meet.

    Bottom line, he's a jerk who got too much of your time

  • edited June 2019

    @CardiacKid I am not sure exactly what point you are referring to. Though, if it's the point I will write* about, here it is:

    Although, I didn't know where, and needed time to think about. I was open to meeting him at that point. I offered to move the conversation from here to What's app/Google Hangout. Which would've allowed us to message, AND video call: which is quite important to do before meeting others in person. Then, with time we could've figured out together when, and where. It could've been a case of both of us just not using what the other does, and neither wanting to get what the other has.

    Though, he kept insisting to text, and laughed my suggestions to talk on other platforms off. He also told me to meet him last minute which in general doesn't really show consideration for other people's time. "Let's meet up today" is different from "Can we meet up today?"

    With everything adding up, I rejected him. He didn't display willingness to find out why, and try to make things better. Nor did he respect my right to say no.

    Responding to his question about where to meet as "I don't know, yet." Plus offering to talk elsewhere. Isn't me being indecisive about whether I want to meet him. Or not.

  • [Deleted User]mdx71 (deleted user)

    I just think if someone wants to cuddle then communication's should be nice, easy, friendly, and comfortable; just like the cuddle session should be. No reason to give of yourself if the other person doesn't seem to want to do the same.

  • @Lovelight

    Don't agree he TOLD you to meet.

    There's an inate problem with text. Inflection, nuance, and feelings are easily lost. Univ Minnesota studied it years go. If a statement can be taken two ways, the most negative interpretation is taken.

  • edited June 2019

    @CardiacKid I disagree. "Let's meet up today" is telling someone. Where as: "Can/shall we meet up* today?" Is asking.

    Let's cuddle today. Let's meet today. Are telling.

    Can/shall we cuddle? etc. The latter not only is it asking. Though, it's also more pleasant, and takes what the other has to say into consideration.

  • We can agree to disagree.

    I have used that exact phrase and there is an implied ok? At the end.

  • edited June 2019

    @CardiacKid cool.

    Going with your line of reasoning, I'd say: There is not always an implied "ok?" Some people enjoy telling others what to do.

    At face value, that tells me. I will not go through guessing whether there is an implied okay, or not. I advise to form it into a question.

    If everything else was going well. Then, I most likely would have questioned them* whether they mean to tell me. Or ask. Though, at the end of the day, everything else wasn't going well. Little things, and big things just added up. So, it was in my best interest to say no.

  • A rough estimate of the times a question mark is used while texting, perhaps 10% ?

    I use them 50% of the time. My friends of all ages skip them.

  • edited June 2019

    @CardiacKid it’s not all about the “question mark.” A question, and a statement are formed differently: which is a large part of what I am talking* about.

  • There's a book entitled "Men Are from Mars, Women Are from Venus". This thread illustrates why that book was a best seller.

  • @UKGuy which part of this thread illustrates that?

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