Pasadena, Ca Hotel Cuddle Event

April 2017

You might be confused because you seem to think I'm "upset" but I'm not upset. I have plenty of other things to do in my life than spend so much energy answering all of the private emails, or getting a notification that I've been tagged on yet another post, or the literal STALKING of my profile (by the way I have been blocked again by a member of your band of four complainers) which I find it to be utterly immature for grown men.

Or the assumption that it's my responsibility to educate or explain. Nope.

Maybe I'm just agitated with this ridiculous notion that professional cuddlers are selfish and only in it for the money and don't care. Ask anyone who attended my party, knows me in person or has spent the time actually getting to know me… You make me out (and other professionals out) to be something we simply are not. Or that somehow we are taking advantage of you poor men. It's like, F-ing ridiculous actually.

If you don't want to pay someone the rate that they charge... then don't. If it's too expensive or not what you're looking for, look for something else. But honestly, for gods sake, stop bitching and moaning and complaining on these threads and go find something else to do… Please! Stop asking for people to give you discounts and freebies and extra time and treat you special. What reality do you live in?

It's like if you think a massage is too expensive at $60 or $80 per hour, don't get a massage! Do you expect when the allotted time for a massage is over that you should get an extra couple of minutes? If you are in a therapy session that lasts 50 minutes, do you take it personally when time is up in the session is over? To me this is very much like energy/bodywork (which I also practice) If you don't understand or believe in Reiki or acupuncture then don't seek it out. But honestly my god the COMPLAINING... enough. I'm embarrassed by how much TIME and energy and effort the handful of you spend griping about it. Please stop dragging me into it. I'm just not interested.

This is going to be the last time I address the handful of you. And you know who you 3 or 4 are. You are the ones who constantly whine and post and tag. Don't look at my profile, don't tag me in posts, don't try to engage me in conversation… I'm just seriously not interested.

Morpheus · April 2017

Yes whoever you three are, please leave her alone.

April 2017

Lol says one of the 3

Morpheus · April 2017

Whose on first

greenearth2 · April 2017

Well I never said pro cuddlers are selfish.
But they do use timers and only see us for the time we paid. That's not selfish. But it's not selfless either. Like a non pro who cuddles with you is giving something for free in exchange for a cuddle herself ! But a pro may or may not benefit by cuddling with you but let's be real it's the money or they wouldn't be there with you. That is a far cry from calling someone selfish or only in it for the money. Please tell me how many free cuddle sessions you are giving this week ?
Or the pro who jumps off the bed when the timer dings can't even give an extra ten seconds. But that's not calling her selfish. It's just recounting the facts. Only you are labeling it selfish.

pmvines · April 2017

@greenearth, I'm not going to get into a numbers contest with you. Many people believe there is no reason for a cuddle party to not have a mix of paid and non paid cuddlers. That is the reason for my post. I don't tell people how to organize their events, if it is an issue then it will be determined by the participants.

April 2017

Maybe you should take a look at why people are jumping off the bed or couch when the timer goes off? Continuously canceling with you? Sounds like time for some self evaluation? Personally, I've never done that. I never would. Not ever. Because I take a tremendous amount of time to get to know someone before we end up in the same room.

Im NEVER just in this for the money. For me, a connection is necessary or I'm simply not interested no matter how much money somebody pays (or doesn't pay) me. It would feel disgusting and cheap to wrap my arms around somebody who was giving me money to do so if I didn't like the person they were and/or feel a connection on some level or another.

I'm pretty sure most women who do this feel the same way, and I have met and gotten to know plenty of them!

It is truly stupid to lump every person into a category together and talk about what "they or them" are like.

Why do you continue to look at my profile and then recently block me again? I actually feel like you are stalking me and I would appreciate it if you just stop. It's creepy AF.

Again, this is our last conversation. So now I have addressed two out of the three.

Bye! I've got a lot of stuff to do today.

April 2017

Who's the third? Inquiring minds.....

greenearth2 · April 2017

Well that's not very nice fireandblue.

April 2017

All I know is I tried to make peace with everyone on the site. I better not be one of the three or four mentioned.

Morpheus · April 2017

@MC you're a jerk

Morpheus · April 2017

I had a great experience today. I posted that I would be at the pet expo which is basically a pet fair where you can adopt animals and buy things. It's a big yearly event. One of the pros on the site who I have never met before said she was free and wanted to come and hang out with me. She came out, no money was exchanged, we walked around, I showed her the dog rescue I volunteer with, we sat and chatted and had a a great time. I just wanted to share a great moment and remind everyone that it's moments like this we should cherish and refrain from arguments and negativity. Be happy my friends and be forgiving.

snuggle554321 · May 2017

@fireandblue I completely agree with everything you had to say! I would've made a bunch of comments of my own but I've learned that it's too exhausting and not worth my time to do so anymore. The ones who complain are going to continue to complain about the exact same things. Those minds will never be changed. I'm discovered one of the best things that you can do is to pretend like you didn't see those comments. Report the comments to Mark so that he knows what is being said and why it's offensive and then just move on. I know a few other people who have stopped reading the forums because of all of this. One guy said "first it was infuriating, then it became funny and now it's just sad." I have to say I couldn't agree more. By the way sweetie, would you send me your cuddle party information too please? I'm thinking about having one here but I want to make sure that I try to plan and prepare for everything I can as much as I can before hand. Thank you so much in advance! You are an amazing and wonderful person! I know I consider myself MORE than blessed to be able to call you my friend! Love you babe! HUGE HUG!!!!

May 2017

Thank you @snuggle554321 I love YOU too!

At this point girl, I just read these and laugh, even after I have specifically said not to tag me in posts that has continued. So I rolled my eyes, skip past, and focus on what others are saying here.

I wonder how much free work that person who posted above has done this week or last week, or if that person thinks a Massage Therapist is required to give free massages or if someone who paints a house is required to paint several hours for free in order to be considered a legitimate "professional" or if people who are actually adhering to a schedule or an agreement they made means anything other than being professional? if I want extra time I schedule it, I discuss if it's possible, but certainly don't expect it to be freely given and then get mad if that person's schedule is already spoken for or especially if that expectation isn't even known but being complained about behind the scenes on some online forum.

Or maybe that person forgot they actually had to reach out and *request* time with that professional in order to have ended up cuddling with them in the first place... nobody forced them to. Or maybe they think we don't have any life outside of a handful of hours each week we do cuddling? You know like family, keeping up with our house, grocery shopping or cooking or seeing friends or that most of us have other jobs? Just so many things baffle me about all of this "extra time" we have laying around, apparently.

I will absolutely share party planning information with you privately. I will contact you at some point over the weekend through your regular phone number. The rest of this week is ridiculously overbooked until Friday or Saturday.

I totally agree with you about your post, many people have had this conversation with me about how it's gotten out of hand on the forums and how a small handful of people are ruining what is supposed to be a friendly and informative space by picking arguments or posting inflammatory things or just downright admitting to trolling. I'm choosing not to address them directly and hopefully they will get the point that I have asked several times already for them to not address me directly either.

HUGS!

greenearth2 · May 2017

haha I'm willing to bet the last few posts had little to do with the thread topic. But don't have time to read all that now.

Morpheus · May 2017

@Fireandblue I think the forums have actually been pretty nice recently. At one point, things here were horrible especially back in the day when @brains was a member.

greenearth2 · May 2017

By the way this fireandblue person who spends insane amounts of time posting long winded messages thinks I'm stalking her ? Seriously !? Like in what delusional world would that ever happen? I couldn't possibly care less about her or her profile. If I ever did click on her name it was on accident being a phone and just lightly touching the screen where her name shows will take you to a profile which I can't even view anyway because I blocked her. So no fireandblue I'm not stalking you and you should know that because I blocked you. A stalker doesn't block people they are stalking. Hopefully you have enough intelligence to understand that.
Mark. I was trying to be civil but this lunatic accused me of stalking her in public. I try to ignore her rantings but this is a bit much. How can I stalk someone's profile if I have them blocked.

greenearth2 · May 2017

Oh just noticed Brandi visited my profile recently even though she blocked me and I blocked her. So is she stalking me ? Using your logic ?
How utterly ridiculous.

greenearth2 · May 2017

Mrsolo. I guess you missed the part where this lunatic said I was stalking her.
That doesn't sound civil at all.

May 2017

Calling a person a "lunatic" is civilized?

Grow up, it's embarrassing.

I didn't address anyone specifically, I was having a conversation with snuggles554321 about something that is posted publicly here. I never tagged your name or called you out by name.

Morpheus · May 2017

We should all just make an effort to be nice to each other :-)

Mark · May 2017

I think the constant upset over these outbreaks between groups suggests some of you guys might want to consider whether you are suited for the typical forum environment. And yes, the clashes on this forum are as typical as it gets.

Please consider that this is a completely optional part of the website and most choose to lurk than to enter the world of heated debate and the tension that goes with it.

That being said, please can we avoid offensive language whether it's pervs, stalking or lunatics.

Morpheus · May 2017

I'm all for ending all the non-sense and being nice. I'll pillow fight all of you ;-p

greenearth2 · May 2017

Pillow fight sounds good solo

aaronchi · May 2017

I thought this thread was about a cuddle event. Go figure.

May 2017

While I applaud the gusto of polylover for trying to organize an LA event it almost seems like we need a group effort to make it happen. It might help to have a female co-captain leading the crusade. No offense to poly but organizing an event like this is a lot to ask of one person. Even with the expertise help of FireandBlue. Maybe nail down a tentative date so we can get a good estimate on hotel pricing? And will the event definitely be in Pasadena? Not trying to take over or cause ruffles just trying to keep it rollin ^_^

May 2017

I'm not sure if anybody realizes but I live in Maryland, on the East Coast. I'm not even local. I USED TO live in Los Angeles YEARS ago.

I was just trying to give @Poly a little help because I had previously planned my own get together. I'm not here for personal attacks, rude behavior or "pillow fights"

If anyone wants to have any sort of conversation with me, all communication going forward will be via email on this site (or the handful of people who have my phone number already, we can text message or talk on the phone).

I'm not going to return to the forums.

Do not tag me.

I_am_Polylover · May 2017

@FireAndBlue I am really sorry to hear that. I have greatly appreciated your support here.

@chococuddles No worries, I will be able to make the event happen. Right now, it is just that my personal finances have forced me to postpone it. Give me maybe a month an a half, and I should be able to set a specific date. I firmly believe that the pricing should be somewhere between $15 and $30, depending on how many women sign up. Right now There are three women signed up, counting a new one I just got a message from. If there is a woman who would like to help me out with this, I certainly not turn her down.

@aaronchi I would certainly like to get this thread back to being just about my cuddle party event. Thanks for bringing that up.

@MrSoloDolo Although at times I have noticed some passive aggressive tendencies in your posts, you do seem to be trying to make things more peaceful. But then, I may not have experienced the same things with you that some others may have. I hope you continue to work at it.

@Mark Your comments are certainly welcome.

@snuggle554321 Your comments, suggestions, and support have always been appreciated. It is great to hear that you may be starting your own cuddle party. Will you be starting a new thread for it?

@pmvines Your comments have also been appreciated.

@anyoneelse and you know who you are, you are being ignored.

♥Jim

Morpheus · May 2017

I absolutely want things to be peaceful and would love for everyone to get along.

greenearth2 · May 2017

How about a free back rub. That could help

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