Wow. So @teddybear888 was BANNED?
This is me shutting my pie hole. No more posting. 🤐
For the record, I do appreciate what the mods do, just like I support good cops who arrest bad guys. But please heed the words of the great Stan Lee: "With great power comes great responsibility. 😔
I leave y'all with an excerpt from the Terms & Conditions, as a reminder and a warning to any future mischief-makers:
"While using the website, you agree that you shall not under any circumstances harass or make mischief against any other user of the Website. Cuddle Comfort reserves the right to determine, at its sole discretion, what constitutes harassment or mischief, and where that has occurred; and may, also at its sole discretion, partially or completely deny service to any infringing party.
Please ensure you read the rules of conduct before communicating with other users on this website.
We reserve the right to ban, suspend or delete any account for any reason."
Yeah, they won’t say it but Colin Kapernick was banned and all he did was kneel.
Nothing I said has anything to do with me and feet or asking members for feet pics. I was asking why should a person on a totally different site like OF be banned if they are selling feet videos and pics? Thats extremely tame. Also no I’m not about to report people in Bikini Pics who look like they are on vacation. Smh
@Love2Lurk @teddybear888 was banned, but not for voicing his opinion in the forums on this matter. He was under investigation and found in serious violation of the site rules which he was bragging about in personal messages to another site member and encouraging them to do so as well.
@sillysassy @Babichev isn't a moderator anymore. Unless you were talking about past tense.
@Kense Selling feet pics/videos is sex work because it is designed to create arousal in men - yes, they are men who are wired differently than most, but make no mistake it’s a sexual response in them.
Some of y'all are gonna mess around til CharlieBear divorces us. I'd prefer that didn't happen.
@BoomerSpooner was Colin ever officially banned or was he just blackballed?
So, I know this is off topic, but the concept of a foot fetish was really baffling to me. I am not kink shaming, but I just never could understand it because feet to me are just, well, gross. I then read a research paper that proposed the reason for a foot fetish could be due to the area of the brain that feels sensory input from feet is close to the part of the brain that processes stimulation of genitalia so if the barrier between these areas of the brain is blurred, then the fetish is pronounced in a person. I just found that fascinating.
Please don''t mind me though.
I enjoy feet pics strictly for the artistry of it.
(Joking. Not into foot stuff at all though I don't judge those who are.)
@Kense They simply can't have an OnlyFans, regardless what they are doing on there. You can shake your head all you want but that is how the admins choose to operate their site. And too many times do I see people defending a foot fetish in the forums only to be reported by someone asking to do things to their feet. It's not allowed. You can think the rule is dumb but it will be enforced regardless.
Edit: And again, this is only for pros. If you are an enthusiast on this site you can sell your feet pics on OnlyFans without conflict here.
@CharlieBear - Like I mentioned before, OnlyFans can also host accounts of people not doing any sexual stuff. People subscribe and pay money to YouTube or Twitch channels that doesn't allow sexual content. OnlyFans just gets a lot of attention for allowing sexual stuff. There was a funny song that went viral on the internet in the early 2000s called "The Internet is for Porn".
@Mike403 Yeah I know, though it’s still not allowed for pros.
@Mike403 There’s a difference between, you know, modeling for a women’s lingerie catalog and modeling for thirsty guys on OF while collecting their money.
@cde123 - No I mean stuff like cooking classes, etc... Not anything that would get men sexually aroused... unless a big juicy steak is their thing.. you never know.
Speaking as a former mod and as a sex-positive man, I gotta say I'm loving the collective wisdom in this thread. It warms my black and jaded heart. CC exists for platonic cuddling. Full stop.
@cheeseboy, @netrunner, and @CharlieBear - keep being your awesome selves. It's tough seeing the non-platonic reports (and the pictures, oh my gawd, the pictures). Why... why.... would mods be searching offline, when all we have to do is log in and respond to any ticket, any hour, any day, and every day? Guys and gals, we're not prudes nor Puritans, but we do keep that very clear line for the platonic community. Sorry not sorry to the Pros that feel picked on when they do get reported and busted.
I commend @Bella_Sera for knocking it out of the park. You clearly and succinctly state the site's history and WHY and HOW non-CC content became an issue and provided moderator guidelines and site rules/standard operating procedures (SOPs). Remember Craigslist, folks? Mark is protecting the site. These rules help protect the community.
Slightly off topic here, but I am the mod that would time out Pros for 7 days for advertising in the General Forum. If I was a moderator, I'd still be doing timing Pros out of the forums. See, a timeout means that once there's a transgression and your account is timed out, it means you can't post ANYWHERE. For me as a mod looking at 30-50 tickets a day, silence was golden. Golden, I say.
Getting back ON topic, but questioning why someone is banned is pure speculation and gossip. There are very few times when Mods have stated why someone is gone. We have a reporting process that 1) keeps mods informed 2) is auditable, and 3) allows users enthusiasts and Pros the ability to appeal. Example: BuffDude creates a profile and posts a nude pic and is banned, and in his appeal he states "I was hacked!" Yes yes, of COURSE he was. Versus The Pro named BuffDudette who advertises in the general forum and is timed out, she appeals, and in her appeal 1) acknowledges what she did wrong (I HAVE YET TO SEE AN APPEAL WHERE THEY STATE THIS, btw), 2) explains herself, her error, and 3) promises not to break the rules again - and we, the moderators, who aren't heartless beasts, remove or lessen the time out.
Carry on, fabulous people. Just lay off the nude pics, and if you're gonna be a Pro with an OF, then delete your account before you're shown the door.
Moving forward, should we always wear socks in our profile pictures or crop feet out entirely?
unless a big juicy steak is their thing @Mike403
Joking aside, a fetish can materialize in almost any fashion. As you keep chasing the fringe limits of human sexuality, you will eventually surround yourself with the truly bizarre. I read about a man with a tractor fetish who was arrested for fornicating with other 400 tractors and having several pictures of tractors on his laptop. I don't know if it is internet urban legend, but it is one of those instances where it is so strange, it just has to be true. As Mark Twain said "Truth is often stranger than fiction, because fiction has to be believable."
@NickWk I suggest if someone doesn’t understand the difference between merely having feet vs posing with them being the focus of the photo, then do either or both of your suggestions.
@Mike403 Maybe they have an OF page dedicated to rescuing puppies but then in their private messages they are selling hardcore content. Seems extremely unlikely but given that OF is known primarily for porn, the puppy rescuer is gonna need to refrain from becoming a pro on this site and stick with being an enthusiast if they wish to operate an OnlyFans account concurrently here.
Edit: Mind you, I have ABSOLUTELY nothing against OnlyFans or anyone making/selling content on there. I have also been vocally in support of them and didn’t understand why that would get someone banned but the admins have to navigate legal waters that I am not smart enough to understand myself and they do not want this site to remotely be associated with sex work, so we need to respect them running their site the way they choose.
Dating sites will ban pros from this site if they are reported. Dating sites are suspicious of intimacy for hire and have to worry about their image. This site allows dating for hire, which is paid and against TOS on other sites, like Seeking. Irony is this site will ban pros that have an account on Seeking. (Back to my hidy hole to read the boards and learn more about this site and its purpose while I recover from surgery.)
@starrynitecuds Unfortunately we have to ban members using this site explicitly for dating as well. There isn't anything wrong with enthusiasts that eventually start dating after initially connecting here, though using the site to meet people with the intention to hook up or date is against the rules.
Edit: Also I have said this a lot this thread, but I really want to reiterate it for anyone reading…having those external profiles is only a violation of the rules for pros. Enthusiasts on this site can have OnlyFans, Seeking, FetLife, etc as long as they are not on here charging money to cuddle (or charging for other services).
I am not sure why you're a mod either, especially if you don't agree with everything you do. You're a free employee of a for profit company. It sounds unethical of CC to me.
@JasonCuddles I didn't understand the reasoning before but I was not aware of the legal issues surrounding it. What I do like about moderating is helping those that have been wronged and making the site safer for everyone. What I find funny is when I was considering joining the moderation team, I was saying I would as long as I didn't have to do any forum moderation. And then that is what I do most since the rest are rock stars at banging out the massive number of reports we receive every day. Though I do handle a good amount of reports and take great pride when I remove predators from the site after doing my investigating.
"Cuddle Comfort is under constant and severe attack from various non-platonic and creepy constituences. We have to be not only squeaky clean, but obviously and demonstrably squeaky clean. Anybody who genuinely thinks that volunteer moderators actively patrol Onlyfans and the like, in the hope of finding a CC professional, is nuts. They are mostly discovered by accident by clients." - @CuddleDuncan
"Cuddle Comfort is under constant and severe attack from various non-platonic and creepy constituences. We have to be not only squeaky clean, but obviously and demonstrably squeaky clean.
Anybody who genuinely thinks that volunteer moderators actively patrol Onlyfans and the like, in the hope of finding a CC professional, is nuts. They are mostly discovered by accident by clients." - @CuddleDuncan
Exactly this. We are strict for good reason and when I see Pros on other websites complaining that we are too strict, I consider that good PR.
Wild though that clients would be allowed to use these sites and can’t be banned for it, while pros are booted at first opportunity. That must be a real source of resent on the pro side, since it’s quite against the concept a woman can do what she likes with her body. I guess my 2¢ is that the site should enforce stronger rules on clients, both to protect the pros who don’t fully appreciate the gap, as well as just for equality in general.
Aye. The cognitive dissonance and double standards are why I am no longer a pro here and have essentially stopped participating in the site. If the choice is between not being a pro here and closing non-sex-work profiles I've had on other sites for well over a decade, the choice for me is simple.
Ethically, I cannot support the ways the policies are being implemented and enforced even if they are based on a good cause. A lot of injustice and wrong is done in the name of good, and personally I feel like this site (and others, it's not alone in how it has dealt with this issue) have slid too far down the slope of placing the burden and the blame precisely on the people the laws and policies are suppoaed to protect instead of focusing more accurately on the actual perpetrators. I'm sad to not be interacting with my friends here as much, but I'm not the sort who can compromise their ethics and I got tired of beating my head against a brick wall.
I do hope however that discussions on this will continue to be had, because I absolutely believe there's a better way to be going about this, and hopefully if enough people get talking it'll eventually sink in.
@cuddlefaery "...I do hope however that discussions on this will continue to be had, because I absolutely believe there's a better way to be going about this, and hopefully if enough people get talking it'll eventually sink in."
Or maybe the site's boundaries can be respected as they are free to run it how they wish to run their site, and not essentially pressure them to change it by "continuing the discussion."
@Lovelight they absolutely are free to run the site as they wish, and have and will continue to do so despite any forum discussions. My point was that this issue is bigger than just this site, and how it is being handled is important on a societal scale. Discussions are important both for educational purposes and for any progress in the original problem to be made.
And I did not state that the discussions need to happen here on this site - simply that I hope that people will continue having them. I personally do not believe that constructive criticism should be viewed as pressure to change - that is not the point of constructive criticism. Whether or not one views this particular forum thread as that is another debate, however.
Edit to add: I also have vocally advocated in the past for the site terms to be followed as written until such a time as they may be changed. And I followed my own advice by removing my pro status once it was clarified that having any such sex-related profiles was against the rules. We agree to the TOU by using this site - if one doesn't agree to abide by them, then they should not use the site. Simple as that. Discussion on the merits or lack thereof on policy is not the same as disobeying said policy.
The fact I'm personally very pro sex-work has a sense of irony to it (but not really). There are other aspects of this website that go against my personal biases. However, my priority is protecting the community and our brand of being an actual real cuddle website and ideally the cuddle website.
It's an uphill battle with the majority of other cuddle websites seemingly being in name only. I would consider it tragic for that same outcome and dilution of purpose to happen here. That's why the barrier between platonic and non-platonic on this website is so strict and will continue to be so.