@ep87 ok I apologize. You didn’t spend the past minutes researching, but the past year.? For pro cuddlers to see if they are eligible for PPP?
@ep87: Ooh, buddy, you seem to have more problems than anyone else in this thread. You do see that both @OhioMike and I have corrected your misunderstanding regarding who is and isn't eligible for a PPP loan multiple times, yeah? Including screenshots, even. But the simple facts aren't good enough for you, it seems.
Whew! Without even touching how often you bring up sex work like it has some special relevance to the self-employed on this site, you've got enough to keep an analyst busy for ages.
It's impressive.
@OhioMike
I am self employed and I also work part time at my friend's CPA business. I have been researching this thoroughly for over a year. This is why I asked you for more info because you seem to know more about this than I do, but you have yet to share anything.
@DarrenWalker
"Ooh, buddy, you seem to have more problems than anyone else in this thread."
Coming from you, that's hilarious!
"You do see that both @OhioMike and I have corrected your misunderstanding regarding who is and isn't eligible for a PPP loan multiple times, yeah? Including screenshots, even. But the simple facts aren't good enough for you, it seems."
Showing a link isn't facts. Show me the proof in the link with examples and then we can talk.
@ep87 the links have the examples Please read them. What exactly do you want me to share ? Social security numbers , routing numbers, federal tax ID numbers ? You seem to be hung on something we can’t help you with ? 😞
@ep87: Yeah, I know I'm currently working retail—but still, I think your problems top even that.
How on earth did you manage to research this for a year and not find all the data out there explaining that independent contractors and the self-employed qualify for PPP loans? It doesn't make sense.
Man, I'm thinking you're past help.
@loveisjustachem, did you get the data you were after? Need any LA-specific stuff?
"the links have the examples Please read them."
Nope, it talks about self-employed people owning businesses. Again, pro cuddlers don't own a business.
Again, I'm not saying you're wrong, but you have yet to provide any examples to prove your point.
"What exactly do you want me to share ? Social security numbers , routing numbers, federal tax is numbers ?"
No, I said what self-employed people do you know received PPP loans? What are their professions?
"Yeah, I know I'm currently working retail—but still, I think your problems top even that."
You're right. I have a lot of problems. I'm a college educated person who makes around $60k a year who owns a home and has a car paid off with no debt. It really sucks to have all these problems!
"How on earth did you manage to research this for a year and not find all the data out there explaining that independent contractors and the self-employed qualify for PPP loans? "
If you think you're so smart, then show me where people like pro cuddlers could have received PPP loans. Don't show links. Show proof.
@ep87 ok do you see if you are an independent contractor you can apply for PPP? Can we agree ?
I don't want to see links. I want to see PROOF. Proof are sentences that prove your claims. If you don't have it, then say "I don't have the proof".
@OhioMike: ...Hey, you're older than I am, more experienced—can you help me out here? I'm confused. Do most college-educated people have trouble figuring out that pro cuddlers independently contracting with a cuddling site for their employment are, you know... independent contractors?
Ok oh boy. Anyone else out there want to help their old buddy ohiomike?😊
I am not disputing that. I am saying you couldn't have received money if you didn't own a business. So a cuddler, stripper, sex worker, etc. couldn't have received money.
And in case anybody else doesn't understand, those are just examples of people who don't own a business.
"@loveisjustachem, did you get the data you were after? Need any LA-specific stuff?"
I am not sure why you are responding to the OP. She worked during the pandemic and she is ineligible.
I never disputed that.
Again, since some people don't understand. Pro cuddlers don't own a business. That's all I'm saying.
@DarrenWalker I’m at a loss right now. I’m thinking of my attorney at a moment of crisis in my life where I was going crazy explaining this unusual behavior of someone I was dealing with at the time and he stopped me in mid sentence and said something I’ve never forgotten.... he said “mike stop trying to rationalize irrational behavior! “. He promptly slammed his hand on his desk and I’ve never forgotten that 🤔😊
Got it @OhioMike. Instead of acting like a mature adult, you keep making excuses.
It's funny that they think somebody is "irrational" who asks you to show proof.
But again, this is the Internet. Most people can't act like adults.
@ep87: She worked as an independent contractor, yes. Like the LA lawyer who wrote the article I linked to says, like the PPP website @OhioMike showed us all says: she qualifies for a PPP loan. Independent contractors, you will note, qualify.
@OhioMike: ...You know, that is some good advice right there! Thanks for passing that on—I needed it tonight.
"@ep87: She worked as an independent contractor, yes."
@loveisjustachem started cuddling in November 2020 and has been paid for cuddling. To have been eligible for unemployment or a PPP loan, you had to have worked before the pandemic started AND your business had to have been closed because of the pandemic. None of this applies to the OP.
I don't know why you keep commenting about something you know nothing about. If we need to know about the blue light specials, then you can chime in.
@DarrenWalker you are very welcome. I really don’t know what else to say at this point. I usually check out when the name calling starts and insults begin. You know I was one of the lucky people that had a support system in place last year to get me thru 2020 and now even 2021. Dealing with my own stuff never really thought about the pros here who could have benefited from some PPP information. Kinda feel bad about that 😞
It's funny that there is so much disinformation in this thread. It's funny people think that a cuddler (who started work in November 2020) could quality for unemployment and a PPP loan. HAHAHAHA!
You know what’s not funny? Laughing at others misfortune.
Also another FYI (in case anybody doesn't know), but cuddlecomfort is based in the United Kingdom. Therefore, cuddlecomfort doesn't supply tax forms. It would be impossible to get a PPP loan in the United States when you worked for a company that is located in another country.
When was anybody's misfortune laughed about? But I guess I shouldn't ask questions since you wouldn't able to answer it. HAHA
@ep87 i was doing some one minute research like you. How do you do it?
Pros here are not employees. They are independent contractors
I don't do one minute research. Like I said, I have been working part-time with this for over a year. Maybe you can't do things for longer than a minute, but other people are able to handle it.
Thanks for proving my point. Pro cuddlers don't own anything.
Cuddlecomfort is also a foreign company. Therefore, they do not send IRS forms to pro cuddlers. Therefore, no pro cuddlers would be eligible for unemployment or a PPP loan.