Yes. Screening is necessary.
Zero success in terms of an enthusiast cuddle in over 5 years and living in the 3rd biggest city in the country. Barely a message even. The ones that did respond were fakes or gone days later on. It makes you delete your account, then re join months later with another, only to find the same Disappointment. And the pros prices have really gone up. So it gets expensive to find a good one.
Nope. Been a member for more than a year and have had 0 success.
Depends on what your definition of success is. If it's just finding someone to cuddle with, then yes many have found success on here.
It takes a bit and you might have to expand your search area but there is plenty of people to cuddle with.
I been using CC for 1 year i messaged more than 200 women only 1 successful but she left twice and she's back but i I blocked her she's very spoiled i treated her like a queen, she's just taking advantages and manipulating me she was really controlling me i just get rid of her .
@newbie2222 do you pay for food?
Q. What's the difference between paying for food (or water, or legal advice, or plumbing help, or a massage) and paying for a cuddle?
A. It's a trick question, there isn't one.
Although, truthfully, that isn't true. You can't pay for a cuddle, it has to be given freely. What you do pay for is the cuddler's time, expertise, business expenses and so on.
In other words, just go for it.
Yes lots of success & many repeat clients.
Forgot to say that if you are a man looking to cuddle women enthusiasts, you might find this thread useful:
https://www.cuddlecomfort.com/forum/discussion/10731/how-i-found-happiness-on-cuddle-comfort#top
@CuddleDuncan well said Duncan if it's reasonable price if they charge alot it's up to the client to choose i wouldn't pay alot money more than £70 or $100 Vanessa said she charge £300 a night some they charge £1000 a knight that's my whole salary for 4 months after tax rent,bills .
Expertise? Expenses? Please explain
I'm currently taking to two pros who have never cuddled, what am I missing?
Hey @nurturingman I’m just replying to a response you gave me 😎.
Q: Have you gotten more cuddles as a pro, or has the "pay wall" stopped people from cuddling with you?
A: I found out about this website by a random stranger at a gym 😂. I was skeptical at first, but as soon as I signed up on 6/25/21 I immediately opted for the pro route and the rest was history. My cuddle count right now is at 14 so far as of 9/17/21. ______________________[______________________ Q: How much money have you made as a professional male cuddler? (I'm not looking to get rich; I'm just curious.)
A: $7,430. Keep in mind that when I first started my hourly rate was only $50 and an overnight with me was $420.
Q: What is the percentage breakdown of your clientele by gender (e.g., 80% men, 15% women, and 5% non-binary)?
A: 100% women ( 95% over 35 yrs old )
Q: What training have you taken in cuddling (e.g., Cuddlist, Cuddle Sanctuary)?
A: None
Q: What have your clients told you about why they hired a pro (i.e., why you and not a man who is not a pro)?
A: Too many personal reasons to list here.
Q: What have you liked/disliked about being a male pro cuddler?
A: Likes - Everything Dislikes - Nothing on my end
@newbie2222 being a professional cuddler - a good one - is a skilled, difficult and demanding job. I'll give one simple example: a new client who, following initial pleasantries, just sat on a chair a cried his eyes out for an hour. Wept inconsolably. Wouldn't talk, wouldn't be comforted. The professional just sat there, bearing witness. When she gently said that the time was up, he thanked her politely and left. They never touched.
Basic expenses for a professional cuddler may include travel, clothes, makeup, grooming products and services, website, photography, accountancy, marketing, laundry, furniture and furnishings, education and training, insurance ....
Recently a professional quoted in detail their initial costs. I can't remember the exact amount but it was the order of a couple of grand. That was just to get set up, and they don't even host (which adds a whole lot of expense).
If success is defined as making some nice connections in terms of a penpal relationship, then not bad.
In terms of finding an enthusiast cuddler, not so far.
A few polite inquiries, leading to nothing yet.
One near miss, that was canceled a day or two before we were supposed to meet.
Not terribly surprising as I am in the lowest desirability grouping.
Patience, patience, humbleness, and more patience.
Wanting to cuddle is physical, needing a therapist is mental, why not pay for a true professional then. Most pros want paid to travel. Everyone has cost to be presentable
The majority of those costs are not legitimate and things that the "pro" cuddler does not do or have at all or already has. In addition to my regular career, I do accounting also and if a person tried to claim all that on taxes when the majority of those expenses are things you need just for everyday life and a regular job, I would reject it because so would the IRS. Everyday living expenses and things a woman does and has anyway are not business expenses.
Nope not a one. Lucky to just get a response.
Exactly
@newbie2222 I have cuddled pros and enthusiasts. I am not quite understanding what you are getting at with your replies. People are offering some pointers yet it seems you want people that make you feel like you are not the only one who doesn’t see anyone. I actually recommend a pro who has crap tons of karma the first time because they have seen everything. I did that and she got rid of my butterflies and anxiousness inside of 15 minutes. If they give you karma then they are giving you street cred cuddle-style.
Build on those first karma and engage a few enthusiasts who do respond. Enthusiasts are nervous too. They are nervous they will be rejected, attacked, misunderstood, and the list goes on. But it does happen. I have had more than one enthusiast who after a session wanted an overnight. It happens but it takes patience, trust and honesty.
But if you ate looking for the perfect situation with the perfect person you are looking at the wrong species, because it ain’t humans.
@Letsholdeachoth you are simply wrong. There is no need to explain why, you will recognise it if you simply spend a few moments thinking about what being a good professional cuddler actually involves.
Why did you write "pro" in inverted commas?
@newbie2222 if you need a cuddler therapist, hire one. If you need a talking therapist, hire one. They are different things. I hire both. (Which is difficult. If you are considering running them in parallel think about it carefully and talk to them both about it.)
Contrary to popular belief, cuddling is not primarily a physical activity, it is primarily an emotional one. Sure, in most cases the physical aspect is a big important part of it: but it is not the essence.
Consider the following example. There are two rooms, and you have to choose. In the first room in somebody who will give you a physical cuddle, of the kind you like. However, the person is the person you most despise in the world, and they are overdue for a bath. The person in the second room is not allowed to touch you and you are not allowed to touch them. However, you can do anything else you like. That person is the somebody you love and who loves you.
Which room do you choose in order to feel cuddled? The one with the physical cuddle? Or the one without?
@CuddleDuncan You shouldn't have dropped my name without explaining yourself. There is a need to explain why I am wrong if you are going to call me out like that. The majority of what you mentioned are either things that they already do or already own. If you come to me with receipts for makeup or a manicure because you are a pro cuddler, I will not accept those ever. I was going to be nice but since you called me out like that, I won't be. You are the biggest kiss ass on this site and will believe anything any girl on here tells me because you are that much of a simp. Begone with you!
Guess I'm saying I'm not paying someone to be held and non pros arent serious
@newbie2222 Different people have different experiences here. I've personally found it worthwhile to pay, and you may not. It's up to you to decide. As for non-pros, my guess is that some are less serious, and some more.
My area doesn't have a lot of of either to choose from. While I'd love to find an enthusiast near me who is willing to cuddle a middle-aged bald guy, I realize that I might have to wait a while. I've learned to be ok with that.
In the meantime, I'm happily cheering for every success experienced by members of this site.
@Letsholdeachoth sure, if you want me to explain I'm happy to.
Laundry, travel, makeup, clothes and all that stuff are obviously things we all do and which you need for any ordinary job. But cuddling isn't an ordinary job for two reasons. Firstly, you get physically close to the client, as close as it's possible to get. This requires a much higher standard of personal grooming and cleanliness than pretty much any job other than surgeon. For example, you have to change clothes between clients because clothes pick up the natural scent of the previous clients. If the professional is hosting, then clean sheets and towels have to available for each client: the amount of laundry rapidly becomes terrifying.
(As an aside, when I mentioned travel I was thinking of professionals in London who use multiple therapy rooms, and have to travel between them. They are all centrally located and so there is no charge to the client. Here in the UK a return commute is not an allowable expense, but travelling between work centres is.)
Secondly, cuddling professionally is intensely emotionally demanding. One of the ways that these emotional demands can be met is by maintaining a certain amount of emotional distance. In practice, one of the ways of achieving this is by simple tricks such as dressing in a different style - or even merely in different items of clothing - when working.
Having said all that, for a non-hosting up and running cuddler, the incremental expenses for a single session are modest. The biggest single cost is the time. Not so much for the session itself, which is relatively short, but all the time dealing with clients, prospective clients and timewasters. All that adds up to much more than than the session times.
PS - I had to look up 'simp', it's a new word for me, thank you!
@CuddleDuncan
"Contrary to popular belief, cuddling is not primarily a physical activity, it is primarily an emotional one. Sure, in most cases the physical aspect is a big important part of it: but it is not the essence."
I agree, which is among the reasons I cannot hire a professional cuddler.
It is too delusional for me, it requires too much suspension of disbelief.
Either the person that is there to hold me and comfort me is truly emotionally involved, or they aren't.
And I respect the professionals enough to believe they aren't, because frankly, if they are emotionally involved, how much clinical attention are they paying to my needs?
My one experience with a professional, certified cuddler happened to be someone that was emotionally involved, and as a result completely ignored my boundaries, and then my body language, and made for a bad experience.
And if they are as emotionally involved as I am, why are they accepting money for an act that is an even exchange?
As to those professionals that are not emotionally connected, the ones who are in fact acting professionally, then how am I getting my emotional needs met? It, to me, in my experience, is far too much like paying for someone to come to your birthday party.
And if that works for whoever it works for, that's great for them.
But that doesn't make it the answer for everyone.
@CuddleDuncan you forget to mention a therapist puts a lot efforts and energy and care to heal you which is worth to pay .
@CharlesThePoet for me it worked out and changed my life completely this is my story https://www.cuddlecomfort.com/forum/discussion/11925/how-cuddle-therapy-changed-my-life-and-become-positive-and-motivated-after-i-was-dead#latest
@Ahmedali999 I am glad for you. How do you feel about jumping from airplanes, or eating Carolina Reapers in chili?
@CharlesThePoet professional cuddling is certainly not the answer for everyone. And I do absolutely take your points.
In fact they give rise to a new thought, or at least a thought which I've not been able to articulate before.
The skill of a true professional cuddler is in the balancing act. Being emotionally involved enough in the cuddle for it to be meaningful, while remaining detached enough to stay focussed on the client's needs.
I know a number of professionals very well, and I can say with absolute certainty that they genuinely care about their clients, some of them at least. The professional referred to in his story by @Ahmedali999 for example.
There is also a trick which occurs during professional cuddling. Because the professional is providing the illusion of genuine emotional care, and because you are both acting it out, it is possible for your unconscious to be fooled. I have never in my life felt as cared for as I have in just a handful of moments. (I'm not suggesting any disrespect to my enthusiast cuddle buddies or former partners and the care they have shown me.)
Now, this level of care is obviously not genuine, and afterwards you must be careful not to get sucked into believing that it is. But in the moment, it's still very powerful. My disbelief was so suspended that my disbelief in the disbelief was not just suspended but magically disappeared.
@newbie2222 professional cuddling has the power to change lives. It hasn't changed mine, but it has had an enormous impact. Bigger than I imagined it could. It may or may not work for you ... but if you can scrape together the pennies it's worth a try.
@CharlesThePoet 🤣🤣 jumping from airplane not a problem, the problem is the consequences of jumping,eating Carolina reappears in Chilli 🤔 i would love to experience it I love chilli.