The pro's on this site, as you seem to have taken an unusual offense to the name, offer an alternative to those who have a hard time finding enthusiasts. Trying to insult them by such comparisons as you did is not something we tolerate on this site. Also it is entirely up to the professional what they choose as their rates, just as it is up to the client if they wish to partake in a session with them. NEVER under any circumstance, regardless of their rates, is anyone "inviting" any sort of disgusting action against themself. Do not let me catch you shaming victims like this again, or you will be placed in forum timeout.. ~Shake
@CuddleDuncan Can somebody show me where it states a pro cannot contact an enthusiast. I looked in a few places and could not find anything. Actually, no I can't think of any reason to be here other than cuddling unless it can be directly tied to cuddling. If you reread the last part of my response I agree that if you decline someone and they continue to message you, that is a.problem that needs to be addressed.
Pro's cold messaging is not allowed. I have had numerous Pro's cold message me to "welcome" me to the site and I see straight through it, and don't appreciate it.
~ Sunset Snuggles
Is anyone receiving enough cold messages from pros that it's truly bothersome? I mean if my inbox were filled with unsolicited salesy messages from pros I'd be all for enforcing some rule against this, but that's not my situation. It requires a small fraction of my CuddleComfort time to glance at and ignore the occasional unsolicited message I get from a pro (or block if I really don't like it), and I'm open to the possibility I might receive one I actually am receptive to.
@CuddleWho For me, nothing was ever truly unsolicited as I atleast visited their profile before they messaged me. And even if it were the odd completely out of the nowhere message, it wouldn't bother me much. Now if I were getting them all day, yeah that would be real annoying.
I've had some pros 'cold' message me, but it was regarding a comment on a few posts of mine but those don't bother me at all and I really appreciate those messages.
Usually if someone messages me it's to say hello or about something from the forum . Conversation rarely goes in direction of cuddling. If you are only here for business that's fine I respect the hustle, however some of my closest friends from here are pros and we know we have somewhere to stay and someone to hang with anytime we are in each other's towns . Sure they may be on here for business too, but lots of pro cuddlers enjoy being social and making friends and connections as well. If I just get pissy and assume they are cold calling me for business then I would be missing all of these beautiful opportunities for connections.
I agree with several who have posted here that receiving a message that says hello if you are ever in my area do not hesitate to contact me is not anywhere approaching the level of a heinous crime or even a felonious annoyance. If this is what upsets some then perhaps they need to contact these annoying people and ask for a hug because this is such trivial minutia it is confounding to me that it can rise to the level of stress-inducing anxiety.
Hey can anyone help me ? I’m looking for the “no one will contact me thread “ I’m definitely on wrong one.
@OhioMike @FunCartel I cant help but think this is more a gripe about pros being pros and not liking that they exist as opposed to any actual problem where pros are flooding inboxes with sales proposals.
I possibly wasn't clear enough when I complained that I was contacted AGAIN after turning down a solicitation to book a cuddle session with the pro who cold called me. I also told her that I did not want to snap chat. What, is that the one that makes you look like you have cute little animal ears and noses? That sounds ridiculous. I think that if you contact any person here once and that person says not interested, you should definitely not try to contact them a second time. I hope this is more clear.
@UCpaaHVg6u0
What, is that the one that makes you look like you have cute little animal ears and noses? That sounds ridiculous.
💀 I love everything about this. When members say their cuddlers are showing up looking nothing like their photos I often wonder how many of their pics were Snapchat filtered photos.
"Sir, those are filters. I do not in fact have anime eyes and waifu breasts."
It’s in the pro’s contract that they are not allowed to contact other members unless they have reason to believe they are interested in their services. If they contact someone once and that person doesn’t respond or indicates that they are not interested, they should leave that person alone. For them to persist is a violation of their contract. They should be reported. They are probably doing it to others, too. They won’t be banned for that, they will get a warning, but if they persist after a warning, they would be banned.
Look at item #26, the first one under “Miscellaneous.”
https://www.cuddlecomfort.com/terms/pro-cuddler-contract
@Babichev That clause is vague. A "reason to believe they are interested in their services" could be as simple as them having a profile in the nearby area. A non-committal "I'm not ready yet" could mean they still might be interested in the future. Once he did the hard no, she blocked him, possibly to make sure she doesn't mistakenly contact him again.
I'm not trying to argue either way, I'm just pointing out that the red line needs to be more defined in a contract.
@Rezz That's hilarious! 😂
For anyone on this site to Persist after being told “no” is a clear answer in itself if someone understands consent(regardless if they are pro or not) and deviation from taking into account another human being’s autonomy even is for other human beings.
I completely understand someone disregarding you, once you’ve expressed you’re not interested. And it resonates with me how quick this community is to be hostile toward others asking for their perspective or for answers.
Honestly, don’t seek solace in a community of strangers that are here for various reasons. Not all of them are genuine in their interest in building a safe online community, outside of the in person cuddling community part.
@Rezz
@zerocantaloupe, Mark (the site owner) has stated in the forum that viewing a professional's profile is sufficient to count as "reason to believe". Simply having a profile is not, since in principle this is primarily an enthusiast site not a professional one.
I don’t mind pros reaching out. Especially if I’ve visited their profile.
I hate this sales approach in the real world; when someone asks, for example, who my phone service company is in the grocery store I usually just make odd sounds that aren’t words. That’s the only thing that really stops aggressive sales people; socially unusual noises in response to questions. And it stops them dead in their tracks.
I am sorry you went through this @UCpaaHVg6u0. She should not be offering her snap chat at all. If someone in the area visits my profile, I will send a friendly greeting message, offering to answer questions they might have, but I do not directly ask, "do you want to book a session?" in my initial greeting message. As someone with a sales background, I consider anyone who visits my profile a warm lead, and anyone who messages me is a hot lead. Many people have told me they appreciated that I reached out first because they were nervous and shy at first; , a few people have been turned off by me reaching out first. However, I notice that when I get swamped and don't have time to reach out to new profile visitors, I get fewer bookings in the subsequent weeks. So for my business, it is necessary to reach out to clients who visit my profile, but I try to do it in a friendly, non-pushy way, just letting them know the door is open if they would like to have a session.
@xandriarain and @UCpaaHVg6u0 The Snapchat is a definite no-no and that would be totally inappropriate. I understand a reach out message, but sending you to Snapchat is steering everything in a different direction. For the site it is someone possibly trying to circumvent the booking system and the site’s cut. To an enthusiast it would be a red flag that they are trying to sell something else.
@pmvines I cannot post the conversation with the pro but it was nothing like a social call. It was right to "do you wanna hire me?"..."no thank you"..."how about now?" I'm always open to polite conversation. I say positive things to people in general. I've been here for years now. This kind of cold calling was STRICTLY COMMERCIAL.
I have had enough people appreciate my reaching out (after they have visited my profile) that I will continue to do it when I have the time. I don't bring up a session with me though, just reach out. In addition, if they express disinterest, I leave them alone, absolutely.
@Rezz What you said. LOL.
@UCpaaHVg6u0 To be clear, I did understand your description of your experience and I I agree that it was annoying, and I have no problem with you posting about your experience. My comment was aimed at the suggestions that it was inherently really bad for pros to message people.
That said, on the scale of negative experiences I've had on this site, "pro sent me a couple messages after I turned her down" doesn't really register to be honest.
@zerocantaloupe - The way we handle it is they are permitted to contact someone who visited their site. However, if the person does not express an interest then they are expected to leave that person alone. And they are not permitted to message random people who have not visited their site. This does not seem to be a huge problem but it does happen that someone messages dozens of people or is persistent and if it’s reported to us, we warn them. The problem isn’t that the contract is vague, the problem is that people don’t read the contract in the first place. If they did, at least half of the warnings would not need to be made.