There’s a tipping thread going around and it made me think, why do we tip some people but not others. Who do you tip or not tip and why?
@Morpheus I usually tip my hairdresser because it’s not easy to keep my bald hairstyle but seriously speaking I usually tip those that are on their feet all day because I know that’s not easy work
Waiters/waitresses is pretty standard but why do people generally not tip fast food workers? Let’s say you order take out from a restaurant where you would normally tip, do you still tip even though your food was take out? People generally don’t tip their doctor, therapist, mechanic but we tip our housekeeper, gardener, drivers etc Your come back can be well they are professionals and make enough money but as I said, fast food workers generally aren’t tipped and they’re some of the lowest paid employees.
Fast food workers make at least minimum wage. Because waitstaff are tipped, they get paid less than minimum wage and are expected to make up the difference in tips. The current minimum wage for tipped employees is $2.13.
https://www.dol.gov/general/topic/wages/wagestips
The advantage of waitstaff being tipped is it forced them to be extra nice to patrons no matter how badly the patrons treat them. That's the advantage for owners and bad patrons, of course.
Tipping is out of control.
People expect a tip for take out orders, Starbucks etc.
I require three criteria for me to tip for dining places
Those three aren't met, I'm not tipping.
Delivery is a different animal, always tip for that.
Some people tip owner operators (massage, etc) that rack up 80 or more per hour lol. That's insane, never tipping those people. Total sucker play.
I always tip my bike mechanic. I do general maintenance on my own but there are some things on a carbon fiber bike that I leave to the pros and I always take good care of them.
I also believe what Dave Ramsey says, that how you tip your server says much more about you than it does about them.
@Morpheus Sometimes we overlook the simplest of reasons. Example: Starbucks has a tip jar. McDonalds doesn't.
I agree. And all that while the quality of service keeps declining. Allways check the bag before you leave the place. I mean I'll be honest sometimes I do tip them. sometimes they are understaffed and overworked, sometimes just for being nice and prompt.
@wilderdude
Great Criteria and well put-
I would have to add-Bellhops-Bag Hanlders at airports
Appliance Delivery Guys-Which would go under delivery as well.
@Morpheus is correct-Always tip hair dressers
Most importantly always tip Great servers in al fields well-It comes back to you in other ways.
If you service is lousy-it is always best to leave a small tip with a note of advice if possible-
Never not tip anything or the server will not learn and assume you're a terrible person
You don't normally tip: ▪︎ any worker who receives a salary or is employed in a well-paid occupation / trade (doctors, lawyers, teachers, plumbers or cable technicians, etc). ▪︎ anyone working at a counter (cashier, barista, fast food workers, etc) as they usually earn a wage. ▪︎ open bar events (usually the host has already tipped).
Customart to tip those performing a service. Like ▪︎ those delivering food, either to your table or to your home as they rely on tips as a major part of their income. ▪︎ bartenders ▪︎ Barbers, hair dressers, nails, spa ▪︎ Valets (like those getting your car) ▪︎ Hotel housekeeping ▪︎ Taxi, Uber, Lyft
☆ If you travel internationally, keep in mind that not all countries approach tipping in the same way as the U.S.
My housekeeper gets the biggest tip from me. It’s not uncommon for me to give her an 100% tip. Anyone cleaning your toilets should be rewarded.
Can only think I tip food delivery drivers and restaurants if I have sat down to eat. Besides those, I don't think it is a common thing here.
@Sooson McDonalds doesn't allow it because they expect their staff to ask if you "want to round up for the Ronald McDonald House"? (Which is controversial because your donation is their tax write-off, not yours.)
In my opinion, tipping is out of control. Providing a service isn't a reason to expect a tip. Lawncare, snow removal, the car wash staff, they rarely get tipped. Above and beyond service earns a tip. Waitstaff get tips, but I make sure it's in cash. It annoys me when I hear they have to pool tips and pay a percentage to hourly coworkers. Bussers, cooks and seating staff aren't making $3/hr or making sure my drink is filled. Tip jars at places like Starbucks helps the company, not the staff. The company has increased their profits by not paying higher wages to their workers.
I feel that tipping people who set their own prices for a service is redundant. Business 101, cover your costs. Pros explaining tips "cover the site fee" is ridiculous. That's covered in the price THEY set.
I would usually never tip someone that sets their own prices for things. Seems kind of self defeating at that point.
From @JohnR1972 💯 agree
Tipping is out of control here in the US. There is no reason to tip someone who takes your order at a stand up counter like Starbucks or Panera Bread.
I tip my mechanic because he takes very little for his labor cost, sometimes only charged for the part. I also take him food because he and his crew work hard. I do tip my hairdresser.
@LadyVel
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My career has taken me to 15 countries across 5 continents. Before I started traveling for one company I worked for they made me take an hour long class taught by company lawyers about gratuities, especially as they relate to things like foreign government officials who ask for “tips” or “expediting fees” to get government issued permits quicker. In some countries you can get into legal trouble for bribery even if the person you are dealing with is the one who asked for a “tip”.
keep in mind that not all countries approach tipping in the same way as the U.S.
Translation: keep in mind that some countries have maintained their sanity.
@Sooson
when is your translation app going live? I feel like you're testing something new out here lately with all these pearls of wisdom. 😆
@starrynitecuds Thank you for reminding me !!
It's been pointed out a couple times that the federal minimum wage for tipped positions is less than $3/hr and that's one reason that you should absolutely tip people like wait staff at restaurants, in contrast to fast food workers. However, that's not the case in about half of the states in the US. For example, in Washington State, your server is making (at least) a minimum wage of $16.28/hr then getting tips on top of that. I still tip, but it has drastically reduced the amount that I actually go to restaurants.
As an example: I went to Red Robin recently. There were three of us: me, my daughter and her boyfriend (both 17). We each ordered a burger and a drink (no alcohol). No appetizers or desserts. Total bill after tax and tip: $95
Most people have talked about why they tip people now, but I find the history and evolution interesting - and very relevant to now:
https://thetravelogist.com/tipping-origins-and-practices-around-the-world/
https://time.com/5404475/history-tipping-american-restaurants-civil-war/
https://www.povertylaw.org/article/the-racist-history-behind-americas-tipping-culture/
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/12/16/fact-check-tipping-kept-wages-low-formerly-enslaved-black-workers/3896620001/
I tipped my dentist by leaving the tooth he pulled out---is that a good ip?
@Morpheus social pressure is why we tip some and not others. The origins of tipping in this country makes me think the entire idea is wrong. I still do, because of what i said first line.
Mohels always get a tip.
I asked this question and made this thread because I was curious to see if any of the comments would help me to understand why pros think they should receive tips and why clients think they should tip pros. Not one single thing said in this thread has provided me with any information leading me to believe that pros should be tipped.
The minimum tip wage was brought up which first of all doesn’t apply in California, where I live. In addition, pros at $120-$150 an hour make far more than minimum wage. They set their own rate so there’s nothing preventing them from factoring in the sites fee if they wish. If they book subsequent sessions off site, they aren’t paying a site fee and probably not lowering their rate. If they book offsite, they probably arent paying taxes so if you have a conventional job where you’re paying taxes, you’re giving a pro tax free money with your taxed dollars which is a very unwise investment.
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Yay another excuse to complain about pros and rates
One of the brightest minds in this space recently covered all that is related to pricing in a post in another thread. please refer to it. no need to discuss pricing.
They set their own rate so there’s nothing preventing them from factoring in the sites fee if they wish.
So, considering the pro is aware of the fact that there is a 15% booking fee, the fee is built into the rate by design. even if the pro did not take the fee into account the first time she set up a price, the penny will probably click at the conclusion of the first session and an adjustment may be made. conclusion: the booking fee is built into the rate
but if someone wants to tip, why not? In situations where tipping is not "required" someone may or may not tip for a number of reasons. some tip randomly or occasionally. just consider that if you talk about your tipping hobbits here you may get a text or a DM saying something like " oh really, interesting. how come you didn't tip me? "
@Morpheus you answered the question perfectly. You should operate under that position, i don't think you owe anyone an explanation as to how you distribute your money. Your opinion holds little weight to what someone else expects. And somewhere in between the globe will continue to spin. To tip or not to tip is not the question, do it or don't and the rest will do the same.